Jewish researcher attacks DNA evidence linking Jews to Israel

It’s one of the consequences of the ongoing conflict between Israel and its neighbors that the origins of the “Jewish people” periodically surfaces as an issue of great controversy. It’s particularly troublesome when a scientist—in this case, an Israeli molecular geneticist whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific—stokes the contretemps.

The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world, Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief that most Jews trace their seminal ancestry not to the Middle East but to the Caucusus and Eastern Europe.

Khazarian myth

Elhaik, who is now a post-doctoral researcher at Johns Hopkins, is recirculating the debunked “Khazarian hypothesis” promoted by journalist Arthur Koestler in his 1976 book, The Thirteenth Tribe, written before scientists had the tools to compare genomes and challenge his conclusion.

The Khazarian myth was more recently recycled (to great applause by anti-Israeli activists and some pro-Palestinian groups) in no less convincing form by Israeli French historian Shlomo Sand in The Invention of the Jewish People, published in 2008—a book panned by both historians and geneticists.

Elhaik reengaged the faux controversy late last year when the Oxford journal Genome Biology and Evolution published his study, “The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses.” The young Jewish researcher challenged the so-called “Rhineland hypothesis”—the broadly accepted genetic and historic evidence that about 80 percent of Jewish Ashkenazi males trace their ancestry to a core population of approximately 20,000 Eastern European Jews who originated in the Middle East. Elhaik wrote that the Khazars converted to Judaism in the eighth century, although historians believe and genetic evidence confirms that only a fraction of the population converted, including almost certainly royalty and some members of the aristocracy.

A paper published in 2000 by geneticists Harry Ostrer, a professor of genetics at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, and University of Arizona geneticist Michael Hammer showed that most Ashkenazis, Italians, North Africans, Iraqi, Iranian, Kurdish and Yemenite Jews share common Y-DNA haplotypes that are also found among many Arabs from Palestine, Lebanon and Syria.  Only a small percentage of the Y-DNA of Jews originated outside of the Middle East—some in the Caucusus.

The competing Rhineland and Khazarian theories were most recently discussed by Ostrer in two studies published in 2012 and in his well received book, Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People. He found that geographically and culturally distant Jews still have more genes in common than they do with non-Jews around them, and that those genes can be traced back to the Levant, an area including modern-day Israel. “All European [Ashkenazi] Jews seem connected on the order of fourth or fifth cousins, Ostrer has said.

The concept of the “Jewish people” remains controversial. The Law of Return, the Israeli law that established the right of Jews around the world to settle in Israel and which remains in force today, was a central tenet of Zionism. The DNA that links Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi, three prominent culturally and geographically distinct Jewish groups, could conceivably be used to support Zionist territorial claims —except, as Ostrer has pointed out, some of the same markers can be found in Palestinians, distant genetic cousins of the Jews, as well. Palestinians, understandably, want their own ‘right of return’.

That disagreement over the interpretations of Middle Eastern DNA also pits Jewish traditionalists against a particular strain of secular Jewish ultra-liberals who have joined with anti-Israeli Arabs and many non-Jews to argue for an end to Israel as a Jewish nation. Their hero is the Austrian-born Shlomo Sand—and now Elhaik. His study gained buzz in neo-Nazi websites and radical anti-Israeli and more radical pro-Palestinian blogs. For example, the notorious former Ku Klux Klansman David Duke actually attacked Elhaik in his latest anti-Jewish rant—Duke’s anti-Semitic beliefs hang on the fact that Jews are genetically cohesive and conspiratorial. “The disruptive and conflict-ridden behavior which has marked out Jewish Supremacist activities through the millennia strongly suggests that Jews have remained more or less genetically uniform and have … developed a group evolutionary survival strategy based on a common biological unity — something which strongly militates against the Khazar theory,” Duke wrote in his blog in February.

While Elhaik’s work has provided ideological support for those seeking the destruction of Israel, it’s fallen flat among established scientists, who peer reviewed his work and found it sloppy at best and political at worst.

“He’s just wrong,” said Marcus Feldman of Stanford University, a leading researcher in Jewish genetics. “If you take all of the careful genetic population analysis that has been done over the last 15 years… there’s no doubt about the common Middle Eastern origin,” he said. He added that Elhaik’s paper “is sort of a one-off.”

“It’s an unrealistic premise,” said University of Arizona geneticist Michael Hammer, one of the world’s top Y-chromosomal researchers.

Discover’s Razib Khan did a textured critique in his Gene Expression blog, noting the study’s historical fuzziness and its selective use of data to come up with what seems like a pre-cooked conclusion. As Razib writes, it’s hardly surprising that we would find a small but sizable Khazarian contribution to the “Jewish gene pool”. In fact the male line of my own family traces to the Caucusus, suggesting I’m one of the 20 percent or so of Jews whose lineage traces to converted royal Khazarians. But that view is widely acknowledged by Ostrer, Hammer, Feldman, Michael Thomas and every major researcher in this area—as summarized in my book, Abraham’s Children: Race, Identity and the DNA of the Chosen People.

The rebuke of Elhaik’s study apparently has irked the beleaguered and brash researcher. He’s launched a new offensive—the double entendre is intentional—as chronicled in the Jewish Forward. Elhaik is now calling the world’s top geneticists “liars” and “frauds.” When I weighed in on the magazine’s discussion board, Elhaik responded with academic restraint, claiming my reporting was no better than the geneticists he trashed, saying it shared “common ground with the Nazism (sic) ideology.”

Judaism’s tribal roots

Unlike Christianity and Islam, Judaism is not solely a faith-based religion. Its origins, as is the case with the other prominent surviving ancient religion, Zoroastrianism, are tribal. The blood connections mentioned endlessly in the Hebrew Bible are not just symbolic; the Jews of ancient Israel were a clan of connected tribes who coalesced over hundreds of years. While Jesus and later Mohammad transformed the notion of “blood” into “faith”—one could become a Christian or Muslim through faith alone—Judaism has always retained an ancestral component.

In the Torah, that blood link is patrilineal, passed on from father to son. That tradition is preserved today in the Jewish priesthood, known as the Aaronite line. According to the Bible (and we have no way to know if this is historical or apocryphal), Aaron was anointed as the first Jewish priest and his sons and their descendants became the seed population of the Jewish priesthood. Jewish Cohanim—the word means ‘priests’ in Hebrew—supervised the inner sanctum until the destruction of the Second Temple in the first century, after which the Aaronite line was preserved by tradition, with Cohanim having special privileges and responsibilities to this day.

Are present day Cohanim descended from Aaron? That question is unanswerable; we do not even know for certain that Aaron or Moses even existed. However, DNA studies of the Y chromosome have determined that a majority of self-proclaimed Cohanim (it’s an oral tradition) has a set of genetic markers that trace back approximately three thousand years to a single common ancestor. In other words, if there was no Aaron, there was certainly a High Priest early in the Jewish tradition whose ancestors have retained evidence of that tradition in their DNA.

As discussed in Abraham’s Children, Judaism has always retained its tribal roots even as faith-based religions flourished. In the centuries after the destruction of the Second Temple in the first century, Jewish lineage became defined through the mother rather than the father. Jewishness is now based on a triple helix: belief in God (although many Jews are agnostic or atheist); recognition of ancient Israel as a Biblical homeland; and literal blood connection with other Jews, passed on from generation to generation.

To many people—including and especially Jews sensitive to the Nazi branding of Jews as a race, which led to the near extinction of the religion—acknowledging the genetic cohesiveness of Judaism is uncomfortable. Anything that marks Jews as essentially different runs the risk of stirring either anti- or philo-Semitism. But that doesn’t mean we can ignore the factual reality of what Ostrer calls the “biological basis of Jewishness” and “Jewish genetics.” Acknowledging the genetic distinctiveness of Jews is “fraught with peril,” but we must grapple with the hard evidence of “human differences” if we seek to understand their implications of the age of genetics.

Jon Entine, executive director of the Genetic Literacy Project, is a senior fellow at the Center for Health & Risk Communication and STATS (Statistical Assessment Service) at George Mason University.

227 thoughts on “Jewish researcher attacks DNA evidence linking Jews to Israel”

  1. Palestinians are not ‘distant cousins of Jews.’ Kohanim gene occurs almost as frequently among Palestinians as Jews, shown by Israeli researcher. Cavallo-Sforza et al,’s seminal work demonstrates on a range of markers predominant in the Eastern Mediterranean that Palestinians and Jews are equal on frequency, and more closely related to each other than any other group, incl. Lebanese, Jordanian and Saudi Arabs, Syrians, and others. Many Jews of Galilee turned out to be more Syrian than Judaean. This work has been confirmed by Israeli, British, and American genetic researchers as well. This article is very biassed as usual. If you can’t overcome your ethnocentrism and myths, as well as your hate, you will never obtain peace or longevity as a state.

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    • I don’t think you understand the relationship between a haplotype and closeness of relationship. Jews and Palestinians are indeed more closely related than many other groups, but their maternal and paternal lines and their overall gene makeup have diverged over the past two thousand years quite significantly, according to all the studies.

      Nebel et al, in Human Genetics in 2000 concluded: “The two modal haplotypes in the I&P Arabs were closely related to
      the most frequent haplotype of Jews (the Cohen modal haplotype). However, the I&P Arab clade that includes the two Arab modal haplotypes (and makes up 32% of Arab chromosomes) is found at only very low frequency among Jews, reflecting divergence and/or admixture from
      other populations.” Here’s the link to help you better understand the genetic data: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11153918. I have no idea about your reference to “myths” or my alleged “hate”. You certainly won’t find it in anything I’ve written. My book “Abraham’s Children” documents the shared ancestry of Jews and Muslims ….something I’m quite proud about as Arabs and Jews share noble Semitic origins. Frankly I’m not sure the point you are trying to make. It’s kind of cool that Palestinians and Jews are cousins; both are cultures well known for their commitment to literacy and family. This is really a science debate and personal attacks are just not warranted.

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      • Yes Jon you are right there has been a significant divergence over the many centuries since Abram who later became known as Abraham had a child with Hagar at the insistence of Sarah his wife and Ishmael was born as a result of that union and then when Sarah became pregnant with Isaac, she forced Hagar and Ishmael out of the encampment by basically complaining to Abraham about her. So the Egyptian people are the half brothers of the Israelis and I am sure that the Egyptian People over the course of thousands of years have bred outside of the Egyptian Population, so all of the people over there are half brothers and sisters or cousins to the Israeli People simply because of the intermingling of the people.

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      • There is a lot of similarities of ancestry probably because of the attack, rape and concur that the muslims have practiced since their beginnings. Also the brother of Isaac Ishmael and the brother of Jacob Esau would further the show similar genes but the idea that God doesn’t know who the people that he blessed and those that he cursed is a little silly. Also the true Israelite is easy to find. They were the ones that were dispersed throughout the nations by persecution. God said that they were to put up signposts as to the roads that they were dispersed so they could now the way of their return, and that would again be the persecution of a group of people that shared common ancestral history passed down generationally. God made it to difficult to fake. Their being given back their land after some of the most severe persecution of men women and children is none other than fulfilled prophecy by the hand of God. The test-tube of Gods word
        spells out the reestablishment of the rightful owners of the land given to Abraham. The very ones He dispersed. The Arabs don’t qualify. According to the Lord they would not share in any of Gods promises to Abraham and his covenant people. The bottom line is its easy to see what people were driven from Israel and I am glad they are now back dwelling in the land that God gave them…forever.

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        • “We shall know the truth and the truth shall free us.” Thank you Jesus! Read Deuteronomy 28:15-68 , Revelation 2:9, 3:9, Isaiah 11-12.

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        • the issue is that the word of GOD says a true Jew is one who is one inwardly and this man who writes this denies Moses and Aaron ever existed or at least brings up the claim that it is possible they didnt by saying he does not know if they did

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          • Your getting into a different subject. God speaks to spiritual Israel and he also speaks to the literal lineage of Abraham in the new testament. Physical Israel has recouped their land just as prophecy has foretold but only the ones that believe in Christ will be saved eternally.

          • Ashkenazi = 99.9% European ancestry as confirmed by DNA

            Ashkenazi = 0% Middle Eastern ancestry as confirmd by DNA

            Where is the Ashkenazi’s ancestral homeland? Palestine or Europe?

          • Correct ,,but some Ashkenazi have some dna that trace back to Palestine “the trick is in the fine print” When test were taken of white” Jewish’ woman, it was concluded that they consist of mostly European dna. The trick is this :They say you get your Jewishness through the female or mothers , they call it unbroken lines. Now we are talking religion (true) but when it comes to a people the (not true) Hebrews. to be a Hebrew your Dna has to trace back to the middle East. NOT Europe this includeds Egyptian dna..Truth is better than fiction… Shalom -Shalom

          • Noooo. Ashkenazi = 99.9% JEWISH European ancestry. It’s Jewish ancestry.
            Which is from the Levant.

          • Actually the Muslims did the same in their nations, it was more a matter of degree, the Muslims were by no means guiltless.

      • but you in one breath say the Khazar theory is false then you go on to say that only a small fraction converted . Then you say that your fathers line comes from one of the royal converts ..you consider yourself a Jew and yet you say Jewishness is patrilineal AFTER you already confessed and wrote that your fathers line starts with a convert. of course the woman on that line as well as the woman and possibly men on your moms side may be ethnic Jews but YOU SAID it is patrilineal and that your fathers line is Khazar in origin

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      • The Ashkenaz have no trace of Middle Eastern ancestry. Look at the map of the the Middle East. It is highlighted in color to reflect the ME ancestry for the Arabs but is totally blank for the Ashkenazi confirming no ancestral ties to the ME. DNA does not lie.

        https://i1.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/aran-dersh1.png?ssl=1&w=900

        https://i0.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/mona-kushner-31.png?ssl=1&w=900

        1- ||” Jews and Palestinians are indeed more closely related than many other groups “||Sir: Jews are African, Asian, Arab, European and all these different races of people could not possibly be the same race. Palestinians on the other hand are a people who have lived on their land spanning many centuries. The African Jew is actually African an the European Jew European. Why does such an ordinary every day fact made to be so complicated. I am Semite from the Arabian Peninsular and I can assure that I have no genetic relations with any Europeans be the Christians or Jews. Why this desperate attempt to make the Ashkenazi who are totally a European people to originate from the ME? Accept, cherish who you are and love will follow. But as long as the Ashkenazi continue to reject the only European skin they were born wrapped around with, then that will only bring misery and self-loathing. There is nothing wrong with being European, there is something wrong being made to hate your own European ancestry.

        2- ||” Nebel et al, in Human Genetics in 2000 concluded: “The two modal haplotypes in the I&P Arabs were closely related to the most frequent haplotype of Jews (the Cohen modal haplotype). “||The Jews as I mentioned are African, European, Arab, Asian and so on. All Ashkenazi do score between 96% to 99% in what the DNA firms call ‘Ashkenazi DNA’ or ‘European Jewish’ and the DNA points towards a group of 5 counties in Europe: Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Austria and ….The Ashkenazi whether priestly or non-priestly are European and they have no genetic link to my region, the ME.

        3- ||” However, the I&P Arab clade that includes the two Arab modal haplotypes (and makes up 32% of Arab chromosomes) is found at only very low frequency among Jews, reflecting divergence and/or admixture from “|| Which “Jews”, sir? Nigerian, Uganda, Yemeni, Iraqi, German, Russian, Chinese, Indian, Zimbabwean … see where I am going with this?

        4- ||” My book “Abraham’s Children” documents the shared ancestry of Jews and Muslims “||Whoah! Muslims cover all races and tribes on the face of the earth, they are African, Asian, ME, European, and so and so are ‘the Jews’? How can you make such a broad statement about such diverse groups of people?

        5- ||” something I’m quite proud about as Arabs and Jews share noble Semitic origins. “||I am Semitic and I am here to assure you that no Ashkenazi is. Why the despration to belong to a people, my Semitic people, where there is nothing wrong with belonging to your own European people? Is it total delusion for a European people to believe that they are not European but MEastern. Excuse me?

        6- ||” It’s kind of cool that Palestinians and Jews are cousins; both are cultures well known for their commitment to literacy and family. “||

        Palestinians = Muslims, Jews, Christians

        Jews = African, Asian, European, MEastern, and so on.

        Jew and Palestinians are not mutually exclusive. How can you, who claim to be a scientist make such a statement. Is the Nigerian Jew a cousin of a Palestinian? Is the Chinese Jew? the Yemeni Jew? the Brooklyn Jew? the Lithuanian Jew? Where do you come up with such a broad generalized statement. My advice if you are Ashkenazi: Look in the mirror. Smile. See that very vivid European features on that mirror. You have to to start to embrace and to love that European face, because you only have one face which is very distinctly European.

        7- ||” High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews. “||The quoted statement is from the link you provide. This statement is as crazy as it gets.
        “Israeli and Palestinian Arab”? I thought the Ashkenazi referred to the Palestinians as “Israeli Arabs”? Are “Israeli and Palestinian Arabs” two different groups of people? We know who the ‘Palestinian Arabs” are. Who then are the ‘Israeli Arabs”? You have this desperate attempt to make the Ashkenazi genetically connected to the Palestinians and it is totally an attempt with no scientific basis. Why should Europeans have a genetic link to no other people on earth but to Palestinians. It is so strange, I can’t wrap my head around it.

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        • Really, and your genetic research on this is where? And I must ask, how do you know what the base genetic material of a Khazar to show this, could you show the testing done?
          Now in regards to testing, here, it is obvious you have no clue how to provide actual genetic research, if you are going to make fantastic claims you would use source material from medical journals, that is after all where real geneticist publish their works. Here let me show you:
          First, genetic mapping done on ancient Hebrew DNA:

          Tomb of the Shroud, Akeldama, Jerusalem [SC2 T1] James Tabor on the Tomb of the Shroud, female, 0-100 AD. They pulled both a Jewish female and a male bones from an ossuary, mapped out the DNA sequence from them. This has been used as a baseline for all genetic tests since they are buried in a
          Jewish burial site with Jewish customs.

          They also pulled DNA from the Caiaphas Tomb and from the Jesus family tomb, they all show the same exact thing. (http://www.nytimes.com/1992/08/14/world/tomb-may-hold-the-bones-of-priest-who-judged-jesus.html)
          (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110829142513.htm).

          Now in regard to your Khazar or Ashkenazim myth that they have no middle Eastern Hebrew genetic codes in their genomes:

          Need AC, Kasperaviciute D, Cirulli ET, Goldstein DB; Kasperaviciute; Cirulli; Goldstein (2009). “A genome-wide genetic signature of Jewish ancestry perfectly separates individuals with and without full Jewish ancestry in a large random sample of
          European Americans”. Genome Biology 10
          (1): R7. doi:10.1186/gb-2009-10-1-r7. PMC 2687795. PMID 19161619.

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22277159

          This specifically breaks down and destroys the claim of Khazar origins:

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25079123

          This is further supported by Genetic testing with Arabic Jews, Persian Jews, Jews from Europe, Asia and Africa:

          Nebel Almut, Filon Dvora, Brinkmann Bernd, Majumder
          Partha P., Faerman Marina, Oppenheim Ariella (2001). “The Y
          Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle
          East”. The American Journal of
          Human Genetics 69 (5): 1095–112. doi:10.1086/324070. PMC 1274378. PMID 11573163.

          Amazing, now you want me to get into the separation of the Arabs claiming to be Palestinians, the findings that show they are related to the Jews, they have a smaller portion of Hebrew DNA, this most likely had to do with what started with Mohammad, slaughtering the Jewish males, adopting the children into Islamic houses and forcing the women to marry Arabs. What is more, the majority of genetic code shows a separation of about 4,500 years between the Jews and Arabs, which the Palestinians are part of, this would make sense going along the same time line as the Abrahamic narrative.

          If you are going to make genetic claims, I find it funny how not one of you can show the actual genetic research to back up your claims.

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          • no such thing as Hebrew DNA, these so called Jewish genes are shared by other non Jewish groups including Cherokee Indians, the so called experts who come out with this pseudo science refuse to release their data to the public.

          • Of course, now you are not only a cowardly moron, but stupid as well. Experts? What Geneticist has this data? Wait, there are none, typical of you idiots claim it is secret because you can’t provide any.

        • Give me a break on this, there is not a shred of archaeological proof to back up this migration claim other then what is written in historical text. If you are going to stay in science, the only thing they have found is through archaeology, this shows the ancient Hebrews show the same exact remains as the ancient Canaanites, the only difference was a lack of any idols, most experts believe to day the Hebrews grew out of this group, the Palestinians on the other hand are Arab, means they came from Arab lands. The whole “Palestinian” claim is rather pointless, I challenge any of you to produce a shred of historical evidence of a sub group of Arabs with their own distinct culture, the ones that claim today to be “Palestinians”. The whole problem is a total lack of historical proof, if you are going to make historical claims, as a historian it only makes sense to ask for it.

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          • The Philistines during the time of the ancient kingdom of Israel were not Arabs they were descendants of Ham like the Canaanites. Palestine is named for the Philistines. If you are saving the Jews were closely related to the Philistines and Canaanites than you are saving they were people of color.

          • Good point, these people keep moving the goalposts every time they get into a corner.

          • ‘Most experts claim’ LOL. a fabricated race myth, you are claiming that the bible is wrong therefore Gods promise to the Jews is wrong also.
            you disgusting people not only steal peoples land you steal their identity as well

          • Really, steal their land? Hmm, care to share when there was ever a nation called Palestine? Seems you have one common theme, you have no clue what you are talking about.

          • How about in Herodotus’ “The Histories” from the 5th century BC in which he describes a “district of Syria, called Palaistinê” between Phoenicia and Egypt? Six centuries earlier, records from The Mortuary Temple of Ramesses III at Medinet Habu describe a people called the Peleset in the same geographical region.

          • Too funny, and care to tell me what the people called the nation at that time? That would be Judea, yet you wish me to go by what the Greeks called it? The Greeks did not call Egypt, Egypt, they called it Αίγυπτος, are you arguing then that Egypt should not be called Egypt? Also, was Herodotus speaking of a people, because the only ones there were Jews, there were no Arabs living there.
            And you foget the Memphis Steela, what did it call the people there? Hmm, could it be Israelites?

          • As soon as I saw the “Too funny” response I knew that your tribalism had short-circuited your brain and made you incapable of objective, rational thought. And frankly, I couldn’t care less about your inane defense of the fascist, theocratic Zionist state. Apparently it did learn its lessons well from the Nazis. Clearly, the unholy alliance of the USA, Saudi Arabia and Israel, the real axis of evil, is the greatest threat to peace in the world at this time.

            As an aside, my parents called themselves Jews of Russian and Polish descent. Despite that, it was the heinous behavior of the Israelis as far back as 1967 that turned me to life-long atheism. More recently I had a couple of separate DNA tests run just for fun and to my surprise neither one indicated any significant origins in the Middle East. It was comforting to know that I had no genetic link to a tribe whose mythology is so blatantly absurd, like the fabrication of the Jewish people enslaved in Egypt despite an absence of any archaeological evidence, as to be laughable. A burning bush? God’s laws written in stone? The stupidity of it is stunning. Of course, that’s no different from the mythology shaping every organized religion. OTOH, most religions don’t project the same level of arrogance and entitlement. And I’m sure you understand that very few people around the world would give a shit if Israel simply disappeared.

          • In other words Roman, you fail to understand that the NATION there called the nation there Judea, or did that conveniently slip your mind. At the time the Greeks were actually respectful of Judea, the defiling of the temple came later.
            Then what do you do, in typical manner you make unfounded idiotic responses, ones that are canned by you uneducated morons.
            I could care less about your faith, or for that matter lack of it, I have not brought up any faith, I wouldn’t, what I care about are the facts, historical facts, something you are totally unaware of.

    • Yeah your comment is not bias???????????? Any Israel researcher is a liar, just like the liars they are about their true heritage beig from satans synagogue! Their is a real DNA study out that proves these fake ashekNAZI jews who started WWII…i.e. the rothschilds and rockerfeller’s and psychotic elite partners in crime, to be MONGOLOIDS, you know that word they call black people, the real jews!! Read your bible and learn something fool, rather than listening to satans synagogue and repeating their lies! Read it or shut up, this world deserves truth, some thing these fake jews and war mongerers HATe so they create and finance a FAKE web site to spew their lies! REPENT OR GO STRAIGHT TO HELL those fakes who lurk behind this site like the cowards they are! REPENT to your one and only JEsus Christ! Oh and by the way, don’t insult the Palestinians and say they are anything lliek these rotten fake jews fro hell! Oh and the jews of galilee were israelites, the real Judeans, the real jews, so shut your yap matjasz bogatay! “This work has been confirmed by Israeli, British, and American genetic researchers as well”……hahahahahahahahahahaha…anyone with a brain knows that says it all…..hahahahahahaha….you fool, shut up when you don’t know what you are talking about or so love to lie like your kind!

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      • I am a Christian, and I agree with you. The non-Israelite Talmudic Judaism is Satanism. But this is not how Christians are called to speak to others. Insults and telling people to go to hell, are not from the Christ.

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    • Not true; my wife is of Palestinian descent(on one side) and sure enough her DNA showed Middle eastern- close to 28 %. My DNA, as an Askanazi Jew, had a “trace” of Middle eastern; the rest European= 94 % Jewish European. 6 % was non-Jewish European including a significant Italian component which I just knew was there. These accessible tests do not lie. You want to build a case for a religious “right of return”- that’s OK, but not by race or genetics. Palestinians and European Jews are NOT closely related, unless you want to contrive statistics. The Palestinians are the genetic heir- the birthright, if you will- to the land of Israel! It wasn’t known as Palestine for 2 millennia for nothing, after all. This is the only situation in the world where one group of people has almost completely replaced another by virtue of “Holy ” books. If the gene makeup has diverged between these two groups over the last 2000 years, how can we even be sure that there was much Middle eastern DNA ever among European Jews. We are, in fact, the whitest and purist of all European nationalities.

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      • Harry: I sent you a message inviting you to come to my Disqus channel. Perhaps you did not get my invitation. Anyway, I came looking for you and found out that you had posted newer comments. As I begun to read, I reached down to where Jon Entine was responding to some comments and one in particular was shocking to me. The statements he makes do not appear to be by a scientist at all, he makes such wide generalizations and I did respond. Here it is:
        http://disq.us/p/1fvin5j

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        • Ms. Helen,
          I am totally confused. Could you send me the invitation to your blog again. I don’t know who this Bogatay person is below but he or she lapsed into the worst kind of inflammatory rhetoric, terrible! I want to say away from irrelevant , incendiary proclamations, and stay with the facts, the thesis that you and I share that Ashkenazim are not Middle Eastern at all, that’s it! I have a Jewish friend who had jet black hair and I thought it was because of a Middle eastern component; it was not. His DNA-94% European Jewish turned upNOT a trace of Middle Eastern DNA- but get this- a trace of Polynesian and 2 % Indian subcontinent. He is more Polynesian than Middle Eastern, Ms. Helen.

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      • “If the gene makeup has diverged between these two groups over the last 2000 years, how can we even be sure that there was much Middle eastern DNA ever among European Jews.”
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        Harry, it did not diverge! 2000 years is really not a long time. The Ashkenazi are European as Africans are African and Asians are Asian. There is great fear among the Ashkenazi concerning this matter, because once it is disclosed that the Ashkenazi are not “Israelite” then they dread being linked up with the Europeans whom they dislike so much.

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        • I am not 100% sure that Jews who had some Middle eastern DNA did not make up to Europe before the tenth century and spread their religion to pagans living in Germany. Already, a very weakened ME DNA, it was almost completely lost in the ensuing 1000 years.

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          • Look, Mr. Benton- Ancestry. com and 23 and me clearly results clearly reveal that European Jewsare about 99% European. Typically we are 96% Jewish European and 4 percent non-Jewish European. I am 99.9% European.

          • No , the results reveal that the subject shares DNA markers with Jews in Europe. It does not prove nor disprove where their ancient ancestors came from.

          • Dear Mr. Bond,
            Let’s be realistic. Roma people have been linked to India, through DNA and language,and are definite part of the Indian diaspora. Italians may have lived in Italy for two thousand years but their DNA shows high Middle Eastern ancestry. Native Americans, such as my wife, still show East Asian DNA , although the initial migration from China to the New World began 10,000 years ago, and ended long before the Israelites surfaced. Strange then that we Ashkenazim show no Middle Eastern ancestry in our DNA, although far less time elapsed between the surfacing of the Ashkenazim and the supposed exile of the Jews from Israel than the period of time between the migration of todays native Americans from Asia ten thousand years ago. I am a “Cohane” but I don’t even have the so-called “priestly” gene. The Ashkenazim, of whom I am one, are a thoroughly European people, and , even if there was ever a tiny thread linking them to the ancient Israelites, it has been severed. The number of Jews who fled Judea following the Roman/Jewish wars was very small to begin with, and by the time the Ashkenazim appeared- about 1100 years later the ethnic thread- if it ever existed – was broken, especially without a continuous pool to draw from. If anything, we have had a longer and more substantial link to Italy then Israel/Palestine.We adopted the Jewish religion or maintained some kind of linkage throughout the centuries before we appeared in Germany, but we have absolutely nothing to do with the ancient Hebrews except through religious ties. We Ashkenazim are new people , created by inbreeding and exclusion, not an old people. The religion of the Ashkenazim, although modified by intense Talmudic formulations is connected to that of the Jews at the time of Jesus, and I would never question the religious ties of the Ashkenazim to Israel. But ancestry? No way, I must say. I know who my ancestors were going back to the mid eighteenth century- and no NOT Middle Eastern. Harry Katz

          • look in the mirror. you have Chinese jews who look Chinese , you have black jews who are black, you white jews who look white.

          • No you are a idiot, look to GENETICS, they show all these people have genetic roots in the Middle East.
            Moron.
            Also, I am half Jewish, my mother’s parents came from Persia, my father is English.

          • “Jewish” is a religion, not a race. You cannot be “half Jewish.” There is no such thing as “Jewish” DNA, sorry but that’s just the practitioners of the Jewish religion trying to feel special.

      • “You want to build a case for a religious “right of return”- that’s OK, but not by race or genetics”
        ____
        Who grants that right? The Ashkenazi would still be a foreign people demanding entry into Arab territory as would the Arab Jews, African Jews, Asian Jews? What if the Jews were 50 million? Where could all the 50 million Jews fit inside the territory of Palestine? If the Jews are entitled to a ‘right of return’ based on religion, what about the Christians?

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        • Ms. Helen,
          The “right of return” already exists. You and I cannot change things nor can we undo the suffering caused by the recreation of Israel to the Palestinians. We can’t even stop new settlements from springing up. The fact is Arabs do control, geographically, vast swaths of land, and the fact is the European Jewish people were almost wiped out during the Holocaust, and the remainder came to the new land of Israel. There is terrible bitter irony here, Ms. Helen. Terrible the way the Jews were wiped off the map of Europe, and the way Palestine was wiped off the map of the world! So sad. But I can barely control the behavior of our chickens, and keep groundhogs out of my cabbage patch, let alone issues of world magnitude!

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        • “Who grants that right?”

          God. That’s Who. It’s God’s will that the Jewish people return to their God given land. Read The Old Testament / Hebrew Bible.

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      • 1harry, you are no more Jewish then the man in the moon, all DNA testing has shown about 70% middle Eastern origins with testing of Ashkenazim Jews, stop your lies. Look for my posts above, I have shown the actual publications in medical journals, that is where REAL geneticist publish their works.

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        • Look, Mr Benton- the fact that you would question my ancestry(my name is Harry Katz) for writing that we Ashkenazim are not of Middle Eastern extraction is evidence that you would also fabricate total falsehoods about the Ashkenazim being 70% Middle Eastern. There are very few European Jews- including some Hasidim I know who don’t accept the fact that we are a European people. So what? What’s the crime? We are a European people practicing a religion with roots in the Middle East. Pure and simple!

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        • that is rubbish, genetic testing has shown that most Ashkenazi maternal dna is European.
          but do you really need genetic tests to prove racial origins , you only have to look at the average Ashkenazi to see that they are not middle eastern.

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          • what about the middle eastern Jews. Personally I dont care the fact on the ground today is there is an Israel and it ant going away. Why are only the Jews who are questioned about origin. Fore G-d sake The English are German, Canada has Natives as does USA and Australia. The original inhabitants are no more and they sure are not from Palestine, a term from the Romans.

          • Really, care to share where this research is, I can show hundreds of research papers that show the opposite, so what paper are you getting this from, what medical journal? That is where REAL GENETICIST publish their works.

    • There is no doubt, in my mind- NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER- that the ASHKENAZIM- such as myself- have no ancestral/physiological linkages to the Jews of the Old Testament. Skewer the data , however you wish, but we are relatively new ethnic group which coalesced in the Rhineland almost a thousand years ago, from a group of people, who had probably been living in Europe a thousand years- and longer- prior to that- whose DNA had long since been severed from “Israel/Judea.” The Ashkenazim themselves used the myth of the “chosen people” to carry on traditions of the Old Testament, and developed a body of Talmudic lore almost as inbred as our people. The Kohanim are also a myth as is my name “Katz” which was just a way to bring some status to my ancestors. I do not have the Kohanim marker either. Native Americans still carry DNA markers from East Asia, although about 10,000 years have passed since their entry into the New World, the Roma people have DNA markers linking them to India from where they originated, the Italians have significant Middle Eastern DNA markers but we Ashkenazim have , somehow, lost the Middle Eastern DNA from where we supposedly came. That’s because the links to Palestine/Israel where long severed before the small group of Ashkenazim came together in Germany around 1100. No, I have absolutely no genetic ties to the Middle East. Without a shadow of a doubt we are a European people.

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      • Thank you!!! Biblically that is proven :

        According to Genesis 10:3-5, it states clearly that Ashkenaz, was the son of Gomer, who was the son of JAPHETH, and that they were among the Isle of Gentiles (Goy, Strong’s 1471). This makes Ashkenazi’s of European descent (line of Japheth) and not Semetic origin, through Shem.

        This is also the first time the literal word Gentile is mentioned in the Bible.

        I seriously don’t know why those specifically who study the Torah and those who profess that they are followers of the Christian faith ignore this VITAL fact???

        Ashkenazi have been linked MORE to Scythians from Iskenanz (Turkish/German/Iran/Slav’s) who spoke Yiddish….

        Ashkenazi’s are converts!

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        • The question I have is this: who are the “real Jews” now living among the nations? I did not realize there was a Biblical source for the “foreign” origin of the Ashkenazim. It fits. We are European converts to Judaism, who copied religious observances and rites that were already in circulation in Europe. At first, I do believe we were considered a cult, but within a couple of hundreds years, we were lumped in with other Jews, without discrimination. We even developed our own unique customs and ridiculous expansions of the Talmud, a book which has nothing to do with the Bible. I believe we converted to Judaism because of the association with “God’s Chosen.” We picked being “God’s Chosen” over affiliation with God through Jesus. Of course, as we know the Ashkenazim paid a price for their conversion.

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          • Quite simple. The Christ, Jesus, has told us through His apostles:

            For we are the circumcision [Israel, the people of God], which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. Phil 3:3

            “Jew” has always referred to Judea, and is not equivalent with Israel, which is not a place, but a people. Christians are Israel, and “Jews” today are simply followers of the old Hebrew religion, a corrupted religion which Jesus brought back in line with Truth.

          • Hi Mr. Sarto. You make a good point but why, then, do evangelical Christians all over the U.S. think of us- the Ashkenazim- as the people Israel and the rightful heirs to that land? In fact, it is a given throughout most of the world. Hitler thought so, too. I,an Ashkenazi Jew, disagree, by the way. .

          • Because Truth seems too easy for most people, and man’s nature is to reason within himself, rather than have faith.

            “Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men” — Isaiah

            It’s true that even in Jesus’ time, “Jew” pretty much meant “Israelite”. But an Israelite is not just someone “born into the Jewish faith” or even with some special DNA. The Scripture is clear that following God is possible for every man. Problem is that, even in Jesus’ time, there were more and more rabbinic (Talmudic) laws, contrary to the clear and sound Law of the Father. Those people, Jesus said, were of “the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie” — Apocalypse. Because they constantly “bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.” — Matthew. They were and are hypocrites, for “this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” 1 John

            Besides, it was not until recently that anyone other than Jews thought Jewish people were “rightful heirs to that land.” If Hitler or anyone else did, it was only to get them to go there and leave their own nations, where they were usually considered a usurious pest, with no conscience concerning the “animals” that they dwelt among. Since the triumph of the Ashkenazim in finally forcing belief in the “6 million” number that they had already been pushing since well before WWI, people just think what they are told, and see “Jews” as a victim group and are afraid to question the modern nation of Israel because they don’t want to go to prison (if they are in Europe) or be ostracized by the idiot “Christians” who support Israel as the “promised land.”

          • While I agree with some of what you say, why did Jesus Himself refer to the Gentiles as “dogs” when he said He was sent to save the Jews first? He made a disparaging comment about non-Jews.

          • Some Jews did call gentiles “dogs” or even “swine” in those days. Jesus was not being insulting, though. He came to save ALL nations (goyim) but certainly his first obligation was to save the house of Israel, who had worshiped the Father from the beginning. Jesus was using metaphor, as he often did, to contrast God’s chosen religious people (the children at table) to the Canaanites (the “dogs” under the table.) When we consider that even then, dogs were very much a part of the family, it doesn’t sound so insulting. God is the father of all people, even those who didn’t know him. And it’s well established that any converts to Judaism became children in full, no different from one born into it. And though he specially loves the Hebrews, he loves all his children.

            We see that Jesus went on and granted the woman’s request in this passage, because of her great faith. Not because of any burnt offerings or religious ritual. We also see that it was to a Samaritan woman that Jesus first revealed himself to as Christ. Women weren’t seen as much worth then, and Samaritans? Forget about it! Jesus subverted the self-righteous teachings of the Scribes and Pharisees by revealing the Kingdom of Heaven to women, foreigners, tax collectors, and prostitutes! Saying that those people would enter the Kingdom before the lawyers and rabbis! Because the religion had gotten away from the main point of all the Law; Love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. No longer is there Jew and Gentile, Greek and Hebrew, but all are one Children of God, if they only believe in and obey Him.

          • Well said but are there any Hebrews alive today? Ashkenazi Jews such as myself benefit to a great degree by the association with the Hebrews of the Old Testament, which until recently was never questioned. It seems so strange to me that even shortly after the Ashkenazim arrived on the scene “Gentiles” made no distinction between them and the Hebrews of the Old Testament. And this was a thousand years ago. Martin Luther thought of them as the descendants of the same people who rejected Jesus. How is that no one ever saw them as European converts to Judaism?

          • Maybe as far as they knew they were simply part of the diaspora. Or more likely, the Jews of back then believed similarly to the ones today, in that a convert was always a Jew with a “Jewish soul,” so they didn’t make a distinction.

          • Yes, likely. In this case does it make a difference whether they(us) are , in reality, Gentile converts to Judaism or Hebrews? I know, almost for sure I am not a “Hebrew.” The Palestinians of today are closer , genetically, to the Hebrews of old than I am as was their life style. My ancestors life style in 19th century Lithuania from food to clothing to occupation bore no resemblance to the Hebrews of the Old Testament but the Palestinian shepherds and farmers did. However, I guess our religion was based on Old Testament – with the infusion of European Talmudic legalities. So the religion was similar.

  2. Wouldn’t the politically relevant genetic data be the pre-Mosaic makeup of the “Canaanites” who were dispossessed of their land when the Chosen People moved for the first time into a land that had been promised to Abraham by Yahweh but which was, inconveniently, already occupied by other people?

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    • Jim: Alas, not relevant either politically or genetically. The biblical story is just that–a story or myth. The genetic and anthropological data suggests that the original Israelites were in fact “Canaanties”–a mixture of tribal people indigenous to that region along with a random mixture of “Sea People”(from Med cultures), Semites from elsewhere in the region, and even wanderers from Africa. That evolved into the core population that became the seminal people who made up the early Jewish religion, plus many non-Jewish Arabs. The founding of tribal Judaism led to intermarriage and a distinct population as far back as 2500 years ago. If this subject interests you, I discuss it at some length in my book, “Abraham’s Children: Race, Identity and the DNA of the Chose People.”

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      • Dear John: My Jewish heritage was recently y-dna tested and my haplogroup is E3B/v22.The timing on this subclade among Ashkenazic Jews has me intrigued!(9th-11th cetury) It’s as if they appear out of nowhere!.They certainly shouldn’t be found there (Ukraine) EXCEPT THROUGH MIGRATION /TRADE.This subclade is certainly NOT native to the Caucuses!(Khazars) The connection between an ancient Jewish kingdom in “Kush” and the Samaritans has been pointed out by scholars.Remember Eldad Ha-Dani? He spoke of a Danite Jewish connection to this kingdom.EV22 has a sizeable representation in this very region(Nothern Sudan) AND it is the haplogroup of the current high priest of the Samaritans claiming Israelite ancestry.Why aren’t scholars pursuing this matter further??

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      • Canaanites were also Semites. the Bible does record intermarriage with the Hebrews.that developed as an ethnic in Canaan.When the Romans invaded the Canaanite kingdoms and even their language had disappeared almost 500 years before and only the Jews nation Judea existed and the Samaritan people.. As with most conquered nations the Canaanites were dispersed and or absorbed into the people of the surviving nation.

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    • The so called Cannanites were basically Hamites who were given the African continent to settle, Shemites got the Levant and Japhetites the Northern lands. See Noah had to leave his sons something for an inheritance and since he was the only surviving father with sons around he divided up the continents.
      The Canaanites were living outside the boundaries of their inheritances after having murdered the descendants of Shem to the point they couldnt fend off the Canaanite incursions.
      So the so called occupying Cannanites were given the options, Leave, Make Peace, Prepare for War. Now you will change and say the bible isnt true anyways though many you will use it if it suits your malevolent agenda.

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    • The Cannan of those days was a hodge pdge of nationalities and forreign merchants, Military colonies, etc. Didn’t Abraham buy a tomb for his wife Sarrah, from a Hittite?

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  3. Dr. Elhaik is a liar and dumb liar. In his abstract, he shows that he
    doesn’t know when Khazaria existed. And then it gets stupider.

    “Alternatively, the “Khazarian Hypothesis” suggests that Eastern
    EuropeanJew descended from the Khazars, an amalgam of Turkic clans that
    settled the Caucasus in theearly centuries CE and converted to Judaism
    in the 8thcentury. Mesopotamian and Greco-RomanJews continuously
    reinforced the Judaized Empire until the 13th century”

    There simply was not Khazar polity after 1016 CE, when the Rus and
    Byzantines destroyed the reminents of Khazaria in the Crimea.
    Ironically, the leader of this polity, Georgiuz Tzul carried a CHRISTIAN
    name.

    I should not be able to find a glaring error in the abstract of piece.

    Dr. Elhaik continues his citation ignorance by holding that Khazars were

    ” a confederation of Slavic, Scythian,Hunnic-Bulgar, Iranian, Alans, and
    Turkish tribes who formed in the central-northern Caucasusone of most
    powerful empires during the late Iron Age and converted to Judaism in
    the 8th century CE”

    There Khazars were no such thing. The Khazars were Oghuric/Lir Turks
    (Hunninc-Bulgar) who had many subject peoples. But there is not a shred
    of historic evidence that subject peoples converted. All of the accounts
    of travellers and from the Khazars state and show otherwise.

    Dr. Elhaik then uses this bad history as a justification for picking horrible choices for genetic sampling.

    “Palestinians were considered proto-Judeans because they are assumed to
    share a similar linguistic, ethnic, and geographic background with the
    Judeans and were shown to share common ancestry with European
    Jews(Bonné-Tamir and Adam 1992; Nebel et al. 2000; Atzmon et al. 2010;
    Behar et al. 2010).Similarly, Caucasus Georgians and Armenians were
    considered proto-Khazars because they are believed to have emerged from
    the same genetic cohort as the Khazars”

    This makes no sense. Palestinians aren’t proto-Jews. Elhaik could
    have chosen Samaritanes (those Israelites still exist) and Sephardim.
    Instead he chooses a different admixture. Neither Georgia nor Armenia
    were part of Khazaria and they were absolutely not “proto-Khazars”.

    So why were they chosen? The old Hebrew name from Armenia, “Ashkenaz”
    should be a clue. He could have chosen Turks who claim Khazar ancestry,
    such as Karaylar and Krymchaks. He refused to do so, because he didn’t
    want to compromise his political study with FACTS.

    Dr. Elhaik may not have known history, but he knew how to fake a study.

    And you don’t have to believe me, you can believe Razib Khan.

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/05/the-algorithms-dont-lie-but-people-may-err/#.UiQ45X8gb4g

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    • According to the Latest DATA, still to this DAY, the Highest by Percentile Y-DNA Haplogroup represented among they claiming to be (((sephardic Antichrists))) in the “Near East”/’Levant’, are of the R1b ARBIN Haplogroup.

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      • Do you also want me to spell it in Russian, Hebrew, and Old Turkic runes for you? My screen name should have been a dead give away that I know more about the subject than you will ever know. Kh is more photnetically correct than Ch, although if we are being technical, it should be “X” as in IPA 140 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative
        Genetic testing and history disprove the communist-spread myth that you are relying on. Only a small number of Khazar nobes converted to Judaism and Jews from Edom/Byzantine Empire and Ishmael/the Caliphate settled in the Khaganate. Go read the Letter form Khagan Joseph aka the Schechter Letter

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  4. I, of Welsh heritage, born in the United States, can now collect military toys, and with thousands of people of Welsh heritage from around the world, invade Wales and throw people from their homes? After all at about the same time Jews rebelled against Roman rule in Palestine, Welsh rebels lost their battles on the other end of the Roman Empire.
    Hmmmm. Where does one buy a warplane?

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    • As a Jewish American I totally agree with you! The big difference between you as Welshman and me- as an Askenazi Jew- is that your DNA, to some degree, matches the DNA of people living in Wales today, whereas in my case- and with most Ashkenazim , we average a trace to 2 % at most of Middle Eastern DNA and do not carry, then, the DNA of the true Middle easterners living in Palestine today. We are not a Middle eastern people at all; we are even more genetically European than you, an isolated, inbred European gene pool. Pity the poor Palestinians and the “right of return” for people like me and Barbara Streisand. What an injustice!

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      • Harry: I have not seen DNA among the Ashkenazi as high as 2%. The most that I have seen is 0.4% and that was very rare, the most common ME component for the Ashkenazi is 0.1%. Can you share a link with me where you found out about Ashkenazi having as high as 2% ME DNA?

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        • Hi Ms. Helen,
          Some thoughts:
          Doesn’t DNA.com identify Ashkenazim DNA as about 2 % ME, along with most other European groups?
          No doubt, as I postulated 20 years ago, the primary Ashkenazim founders were Italian/Italian Jews living in Rome before the birth of Jesus. Non-Jewish Italians converted to Judaism in great numbers before Jesus.Some of these Jews may have, indeed, been more Italian than Hebrew, easily. Throughout the early Middle Ages, paralleling the decline of Rome and its loss of population, Italian Jews- and possibly some Israelites, although they were so few in number that their DNA doesn’t even show up any more, migrated up to the Rhineland, Germany , where they prospered, and formed the nucleus of the Ashkenazim, and absorbed German names and language. When things got bad for them they migrated east to Poland and Lithuania where they were more or less welcomed by locals who had not yet fully embraced Christianity. A second wave of Italian/Jewish migrants to this land occurred when King Ferdinand ordered the expulsion of Jews from Sicily where they had been EQUAL to Christians, and other parts of Italy. They joined the existing Jewish populations in this land. I am a derivative of these people, and, in fact, our family in Lithuania retained the name “VOLPE” until the 19th century when it died out. The Italian/Ashkenazim connection cannot be understated, and I would submit, if there is any relevant ME DNA among the Ashkenazim, it comes from the non-Jewish Italian ancestry, rather than the Jewish where the ME connection is functionally non-existent. It is also time for “Jewish” history to be recounted not from the Old Testament, which is as biased as the New with regard to asserting “facts”(I.e. the notion of Israel as being the land promised to the Hebrews by God, and Jesus, in the New Testament, being both God and a living descendent of Hebrews who probably never existed); that is proof from external sources and archeological evidence that there were Hebrew people living in Canaan at the time of the Pharos. The Bible, for all its beauty, cannot be used as a factual history of the Jewish people- at least as it is written before the historical, incidental parts of the New Testament.

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      • Question: I could be wrong but I’m pretty knowledgeable in history. There is a difference between Welshmen and Ashkenazi Jews, but there is no difference between Welshmen and the original people of the land of Ashkenaz other than color and maybe not even that.

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  5. Palestinian DNA and real Hebrew DNA are a match because, keeping it simple, They lived in the same areas for a long time and to pretend they did not breed with their neighbors is just stupid.

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    • No, Palestinians are Arabs, and much of their DNA comes from Arabia.

      Ashkenazi and Sefaradi Jews have the same DNA however, thus are Hebrews.

      Your logic is very flawed and your views are obviously biased in favor of the palestinians.

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        • “The Ashkenaz have no trace of middle eastern ancestry”

          Uh, yes they do. They have substantial amounts, at least 50%. Some higher, some lower. They have relatively the same DNA as sefaradi jews. Both groups cluster between middle easterners and greeks/italians (particularly southern italians).

          Dozens of peer reviewed studies have confirmed this.

          The reason, “ashkenazi” is listed as european in 23andme or Ancestry.com or other “testing kits” that individuals use, is because those companies only go back 500 years for Ashkenazi Jews. Ashkenazi Jews have lived in Central and Eastern Europe for longer than that. They left Italy about 1,000 years ago when they broke away from the Roman Jewish (Italki) community and moved north. But they are not eastern european genetically.

          Ashkenazi is not a race, its just one branch of the hebrew diaspora. Some ashkenazi are more italian, some are more middle eastern.

          Jeff Goldblum is middle eastern. Anyone honest can see that.

          Ashkenazi is a hebrew word referring to Jews that follow the german rite, the ones that historically spoke yiddish, as opposed to sfaradim who spoke ladino and who follow the spanish rite.

          The racial make up of both groups are nearly identical. So ashkenazi jews (for the most part) are the same race as me (I am North African Jewish). Their ancestors were hebrews that went to europe, just like sfaradim. (Spain is in europe too btw).

          “DNA does not lie.”

          Then stop distorting all of the peer reviewed genetic studies (on a wide range of jewish subjects) that all confirm ashkenazi and sfaradi jews are the same race.

          Tons of ashkenazi jews look north african or syrian, besides Jeff Goldblum and you know it.

          And many arabs look whiter than the average ashkenazi jews. Look at the president of Syria, bashar al-asad or the arab american hussein ibish.

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  6. I recall Mr. Entine in an interview stating that “…the Israelites were a conglomeration of people.” In other words, they were not solely Jews as many commonly believe. Many scholars and historians state that modern Jewry has no connection to biblical Israelites or Semites. As the old saying goes, “those who have the most to hide, hide the most.”

    Encyclopedia Britannica (15th edition): “Khazars, confederation of Turkic and Iranian tribes that established a major commercial empire in the second half of the 6th century, covering the southeastern section of modern European Russia…In the middle of the 8th century the ruling classes adopted Judaism as their religion.”

    Academic American Encyclopedia (1985): “Ashkenazim, the Ashkenazim are one of the two major divisions of the Jews, the other being the Shephardim.”

    Encyclopedia Americana (1985): “Ashkenazim, the Ashkenazim are the Jews whose ancestors lived in German lands…it was among Ashkenazi Jews that the idea of political Zionism emerged, leading ultimately to the establishment of the state of Israel…In the late 1960s, Ashkenazi Jews numbered some 11 million, about 84 percent of the world Jewish population.”

    The Jewish Encyclopedia: “Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania.”

    The Encyclopedia Judaica (1972): “Khazars, a national group of general Turkic type, independent andsovereign in Eastern Europe between the seventh and tenth centuries C.E. During part of this time the leading Khazars professed Judaism…In spite of the negligible information of an archaeological nature, the presence of Jewish groups and the impact of Jewish ideas in Eastern Europe are considerable during the Middle Ages. Groups have been mentioned as migrating to Central Europe from the East often have been referred to as Khazars, thus making it impossible to overlook the possibility that they originated from within the former Khazar Empire.”

    The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia: “The primary meaning of Ashkenaz and Ashkenazim in Hebrew is Germany and Germans. This may be due to the fact that the home of the ncient ancestors of the Germans is Media, which is the Biblical Ashkenaz…Krauss is of the opinion that in the early medieval ages the Khazars were sometimes referred to as Ashkenazim… About 92 percent of all Jews or approximately 14,500,000 are Ashkenazim.”

    The Bible relates that the Khazar (Ashkenaz) Jews were/are the sons of Japheth not Shem: “Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The sons of Japheth;…the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz…” Therefore, the Bible proves that the Ashkenaz Jews [Khazars] are not the descendants of Shem and cannot be Shemites, or what is known today as Semites.

    We can clearly see that the Jews fully understand their Khazarian heritage as the third edition of the Jewish Encyclopedia for 1925 records: “CHAZARS [Khazars]: A people of Turkish origin whose life and history are interwoven with the very beginnings of the history of the Jews of Russia. The kingdom of the Chazars was firmly established in most of South Russia long before the foundation of the Russian monarchy by the Varangians (855). Jews have lived on the shores of the Black and Caspian seas since the first centuries of the common era [after the death of Christ]. Historical evidence points to the region of the Ural as the home of the Chazars. Among the classical writers of the Middle Ages they were known as the ‘Chozars,’ ‘Khazirs,’ ‘Akatzirs,’ and ‘Akatirs,’ and in the Russian chronicles as ‘Khwalisses’ and ‘Ugry Byelyye.’…”

    The Encyclopedia Judaica, Vol. 10, (1971) relates the following about the Khazars (Chazars): “Khazars, a national group of general Turkic type, independent and sovereign in Eastern Europe between the seventh and tenth centuries A.D. During part of this time the leading Khazars professed Judaism.”

    The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia: “Khazars, a medieval people, probably related to the Volga Bulgars, whose ruling class adopted Judaism during the 8th cent. The Khazars seem to have emerged during the 6th cent., from the vast nomadic Hun (Turki) empire which stretched from the steppes of Eastern Europe and the Volga basin to the Chinese frontier. Although it is often claimed that allusions to the Khazars are found as early as 200 C.E., actually they are not mentioned until 627…Most Jewish Historians date the conversion of the Khazar King to Judaism during the first half of this century {A.D.}…”

    The primary meaning of Ashkenaz and Ashkenazim in Hebrew is Germany and Germans. This may be due to the fact that the home of the ancient ancestors of the Germans is Media, which is the Biblical Ashkenaz…Krauss is of the opinion that in the early medieval ages the Khazars were sometimes referred to as Ashkenazim…About 92 percent of all Jews or approximately 14,500,000 are Ashkenazim.

    The American People’s Encyclopedia for 1954 at 15-292 records the following in reference to the Khazars: “In the year 740 A.D. the Khazars were officially converted to Judaism. A century later they were crushed by the incoming Slavic-speaking people and were scattered over central Europe where they were known as Jews. It is from this grouping that most German, Polish and Hungarian Jews are descended, and they likewise make up a considerable part of that population now found in America. The term Aschenazim is applied to this round-headed, dark-complexioned division.”

    Academic American Encyclopedia, Deluxe Library Edition, Volume 12, page 66 states: “The Khazars, a turkic people, created a commercial and political empire that dominated substantial parts of South Russia during much of the 7th through 10th centures. During the 8th century the Khazar aristocracy and the Kagan (King) were converted to Judaism.”

    The New Encyclopedia Britannica, Volume 6, page 836 relates: “Khazar, member of a confederation of Turkic-speaking tribes that in the late 6th century A.D. established a major commerical empire covering the southeastern section of modern European Russia…But the most striking characteristic of the Khazars was the apparent adoption of Judaism by the Khagan and the greater part of the ruling class in about 740…The fact itself, however, is undisputed and unparalleled in the history of central Eurasia. A few scholars have asserted that the Judaized Khazars were the remote ancestors of many of the Jews of Eastern Europe and Russia.”

    Collier’s Encyclopedia, Volume 14, page 65 states: “Khazars [kaza’rz], a semi-nomadic tribe of Turkish or Tatar origin who first appeared north of the Caucasus in the early part of the third century…In the eighth century Khaghan Bulan decided in favor of the Jews and accepted Judaism for himself and for his people…”

    New Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume VIII, page 173 relates: “The Khazars were an ethnic group, belonging to the Turkish peoples, who, toward the end of the 2d century of the Christian Era, had settled in the region between the Caucasus and the lower Volga and Don Rivers…At the beginning of the 8th century, dynastic ties bound the Khazars more closely to Constantinople, which led to a limited spread of Christianity among them. They also became acquainted with Judaism from the numerous Jews who lived in the Crimea and along the Bosphorus. When the Byzantine Emperor, Leo the Isaurian, persecuted the Jews in A.D. 723, many Jews found refuge in the Khazar kingdom, and their influence was so great that, around the middle of the 8th century, the King of the Khazars and many of the Khazar nobility accepted the Jewish faith.

    The Cadillac Modern Encyclopedia, page 822, states: “Khazars (khah’-zahrz), a S Russian people of Turkic origin, who at the height of their power (during the 8th-10th cent., A.D.) controlled an empire which included Crimea, and extended along the lower Volga, as far E as the Caspian Sea. The Khazar royal family and aristocracy converted to Judaism during the reign of King Bulan (768-809 A.D.) And Judaism was thereafter regarded as the state religion…”

    Arthur Koestler relates the following concerning Jewish history: In his 1976 best seller The Thirteenth Tribe, the Author of Darkness at Noon, Promise and Fulfillment, and The Roots of Coincidence dropped another bombshell by proving that today’s Jews were, for the most part, descendants of Khazars, who converted to Judaism seven centuries after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. “This, of course, is inspired by the story of the Covenant in Genesis; and it implies that the Khazars too claimed the status of a Chosen Race, who made their own Covenant with the Lord, even though they [Khazars] were not descended from Abraham’s seed…He cannot, and does not, claim for them [the Khazars] Semitic descent, he traces their [Khazars] ancestry not to Shem, but to Noah’s third son, Japheth, or more precisely to Japheth’s grandson, Togarma, the anceestor of all turkish tribes. ‘We have found in the family registers of our fathers,’ Joseph asserts boldly, ‘that Togarma had ten sons, and the names of their off-spring are as follows: Uigur, Dursu, Avars, Huns, Basilii, Tarniakh, Khazars, Zagora, Bulgars, Sabir. We [Khazars] are the sons of Khazar, the seventh…'”

    The Jewish author Alfred M. Lilienthal relates the following concerning Jewish history: “…’The existence of [The State of] Israel is not founded on logic. It has no ordinary legitimacy. There is neither in its establishment nor present scope any evident justice – though there may be an utter need and wondrous fulfillment.’…

    Arthur Koestler answers this question with an emphatic ‘NO!’ In his 1976 best seller The Thirteenth Tribe, the Author of Darkness at Noon, Promise and Fulfillment, and The Roots of Coincidence dropped another bombshell by proving that today’s Jews were, for the most part, descendants of Khazars, who converted to Judaism seven centuries after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D…Therefore, the great majority of Eastern European Jews are not Semitic Jews at all, and as most Western European Jews came from East Europe, most of them also are not Semitic Jews.

    Thus, maintains Koestler, the veins of 45 percent of Israelis (save only the Arab and the Sephardic Jews), plus a big majority of Jews around the world, are utterly vacant of corpuscular links to the tribe of Moses and Solomon…The Koestler thesis, however startling, is in no wise a new one. The genetic Khazar derivation of most Jews, only the Sephardic may be accounted Hebrews by blood, has been long if not widely known…The home to which Weismann, Silver, Ben- Gurion and so many other Ashkenazim Zionists have long yearned to return has most likely never been theirs…[it is an] anthropological fact, many Christians may have much more Hebrew- Israelite blood in their veins than most of their Jewish neighbors!

    Ironically enough, too, Volume IV of the Jewish Encyclopedia (as of the time of research, 1952), because this publication spelled Khazars with a ‘C’ instead of a ‘K,’ is titled ‘Chazars to Dreyfus.’

    And it was the famed trial of Captain Alfred Dreyfus, as interpreted by Theodore Herzl, that made the modern Jewish Khazars of Russia…forget their descent from converts to Judaism…to establish the State of Israel…

    “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” – (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3)

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    • The khazar belief is now proven to be myth.

      Ashkenazim are a hybrid of middle eastern and mediterranean. They are identical to Sefaradim.

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      • I’m J M267. So I am a Cohanim Jew? Bull shit. My family traces it’s origin at least 1000 years back. To ARMENIA. So all you self hating Jews who want to be Kazars, or better still Germans, you are stupid and disgusting. The part of history that you are missing is found in Armenian history. Here’s a short sample. The Ashkenztzy Jews, come from the Armenian provinces of Ashken and Nawar. Ashkennavar. In Armenian, “tzy” means horse. So, Ashkenatzy in Armenian to this day, means. A horseman from Ashken. The people everyone calls Armenians, have gained that name after 1250BC . Before that’d we were known as Biainili, Hayasa, Vannic kingdom, Hurrians. To this day, we call the Jews, Hurriatzy. (Hurrians, = Hurriatzy). So, the Jews and the Armenians are related through the Hurrians. And so are the Egyptians because their faroes married Hurrians princesses. There is so much more but you need to study.

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  7. Another researcher proving that African Americans, Black Islanders and Africans are the true Children of Israel. These Ashkenazi Jews are descendents of Ashkenaz who was ultimately born of Japheth, not Shem. The curses that were to follow the Children of Israel just don’t fit these so called “jews”. Deuteronomy 28 proves this. Google “Hebrew slave hieroglyphics” and you will see how the Egyptians depicted the Hebrew slaves themselves!

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    • Elhaik’s research confirmed that Ashkenazi Jews are middle eastern, related to persian speaking jewish communities and to armenians.

      Countless other studies have shown Sefaradi Jews are identical to Ashkenazi Jews as well.

      Jews are middle eastern. African Americans are not descended from the Hebrews. Most Jews are, including American and Israeli Jews. Besides genetic studies, history and common sense prove this.

      Most Jews are olive skinned with middle eastern features, including many Ashkenazim.

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      • Bull shit to that. American blacks are a mixture of Africans and whites. No Cherokees, no Rasta man crapp.

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        • your blanket is full of holes…. seriously dude, there are so many variants to the admixtures that you can not think to make such comments and be taken seriously….

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          • Sure there are exceptions, I’m referring to the majority. However, the African Americans, like the Jews have been oppressed, so it’s natural that they would prefer to be something else. But with Genetic testing, all crap science belongs in the out house.

          • “like the joojubes” ok you are but an Antichrst, uneducated troll…. thnx for making it obvious #GenrikhYagoda

          • What the fuck kind of nightmare did you just wake up from? You make no sense. I have a Bachelor degree in business and have managed to learn six languages. “joojubes” ? Sorry, did not spend much time in those back alleys. Never learned the jargon. Antichrist.? What, is this a religious tread?

          • No group of people have been oppressed as the enslaved blacks in the Americas, not in the past nor future. There is no comparison to the present day Jewish people. The experience of blacks in the Americas parallels the ancient Israelites who fled Eygpt with Moses. The main difference is that the blacks lost their identity. I think there is something in the bible about the loss of identity. So if you can proudly say that you stem from a line of Jewish ancestry for the past 1,000 years, then you are not the Israelites mentioned in the bible. However, salvation is free to all if you follow the commandments of the Messiah.

          • I see no parallel or comparison either. As I recall from biblical readings, Pharaoh tried to prevent Moses & his followers from leaving Egypt. American blacks are not barred from leaving. Those who wish to leave may do so at any time. Those who feel oppressed in North America might do well to take that option.

          • Most blacks really don’t have a place to go nor the means to get there, let alone go as group. You may not realize it, but blacks have a vested interest in this land as their ancestors have been here longer than most and worked hard to develop this country. Biblically speaking, the Messiah will gather the dispersed of Israel from all the nations He scattered them when He returns. He sold them for nought and will gather them for nought. Not sure why Jewish people are in Israel right now though.

          • Why should the American blacks be all that tied to the land? After all it did and continues to oppress and deprive them. If I were black, I would go to Liberia. In Liberia, the American returnees are the ruling class. Knowing what they learned, the education, the higher IQ, would give them a head start. Over here, the whites have the head start, the blacks are way behind.

          • Did you actually write the post above or did someone use your username? Your comment speaks volume about your IQ and insults the indigenous people of Liberia. I not going to waste any more time with you.

          • The indigenous people of Liberia were likely canibals when the first boat load of returnees arrived. Liberia is better of because of the returnees.

          • As far as I’m concerned, American blacks are welcome to do whatever they choose; but personally, I would not put up with the conditions. I left Romania where I was born, because of everyday hassles. But the hassle of being black never goes away. I would definitely go where my skin color would not hold me back.

          • I am not saying that I stem from a line of Jewish descent. I’m saying that the Ashkenatzy Jews stem from Hurrians as do the Armenians. I am J* M267 not J1M267. I think that J* is older than J1 and J2.

          • I’m not sure I understand your comment. Israel is a Geographic term. No? Being Jewish is a Geneological term. Religion aside or not. I’m personally not trying to prove anything. I’m trying to find out my origins. The J1 M267 is called the Arab Gene. But is it. Since we know that it originated in Anatolia, is it not likely that it was carried to Arabia from there? That possibility is reflected by the fact that the J1 M267 is found in pockets and not evenly distributed.
            I’m convinced that Jews and Armenians have a common founder. But when? That is clear since not only we share physical traits, nut genetic illnesses. i.e. Mediteranian Desease. The Turks that also have it, are acculturated Armenians. The Kurds who have it are acculturated Armenians.

          • white people are the true jews
            japheth is israel and judah
            repent now for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!!!!!!!!!!

          • “Ashkenatz alleged Jews” are nothing more than white people that came into Israel during the 1940 and formed the so called Jewish state of Israel lol. No true Israelite by blood nothing more than the Synagogue of Satan as described in the Bible. Hell I have CONFIRMED ISRAELITE dna and you? Post your results and I will do the same lol

          • Ashkenatzy Jews are descended from Abraham, a Hurrian, who married other women of his tribe. The eleven other tribes were more distant genetically, more semitic. So the Ashkenaz look more European than the others. I stand corrected, there is another tribe, very close to the Ashkenaz. My ‘family tree DNA” test results said I was a J*M-267. “Synagogue of Satan”? Man, I’m not Jewish but still insulted by your stupidity. My initial instinctual diagnosys was correct. You are suffering from Tourette Syndrome and victimising normal thinking clinical people with your ailments. Go get help. Normal thinking people on this forum need some semblance of normalcy in order to think.

          • Lol, another wanna be important black Israelite nutjob… The IQ of the average black person is not high, their accomplishments in this world have been NOTHING!

        • I also have CONFIRMED NATIVE AMERICAN dna as well from 5 different tribes that includes: the Serrano, Aleut, Miwok, Nez Perce, and Lumbee! Again post your results I’m ready for you! Men lie women lie but number and science don’t!

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          • Maybe you do have Indian ancestry (though that’s a pretty impressive geographic spread, especially the Aleut!) – but there are a whole lot more American blacks who think they have a Native great-grandma, than actually do.
            As Harvard University historian Henry Louis Gates, Jr. wrote in 2009,

            “Here are the facts: Only 5 percent of all black Americans have at least 12.5 percent Native American ancestry, the equivalent of at least one great-grandparent. Those ‘high cheek bones’ and ‘straight black hair’ your relatives brag about at every family reunion and holiday meal since you were 2 years old? Where did they come from? To paraphrase a well-known French saying, “Seek the white man.”
            African Americans, just like our first lady, are a racially mixed or mulatto people—deeply and overwhelmingly so. Fact: Fully 58 percent of African American people, according to geneticist Mark Shriver at Morehouse College, possess at least 12.5 percent European ancestry (again, the equivalent of that one great-grandparent).

            .

  8. Elhaik’s research proved his own theory wrong. His own paper said that Ashkenazim are middle eastern, being identical to Azeri Jews who are Mizrahi as well as to Armenians. What an idiot.

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    • As an Armenian wit Cohanim genes (J M-267) I took an interest. No way, I’m adopted or a Rabby and an ancestor of mine …. My genes go back 8000 years. So, whats the conclusion? I think, when the Hurrians split into Armenians (actually Hayassa and Azzi Hayassa), A group split off and became the Ashkenatzy. Otherwise how do you explain everything? I know that Jews don’t like Armenians; and would rather be Kazarians or Germans? But get over it. Many of my people are banging on the Aryan roots thing. That’s bull shit too. We are a mixture of many Caucasian and Anatolian tribes, with the last invasion being the Armeno/Phyrigians in 1250BC. After that, no more genetic influx. I’m laughing at the pseudo geneticists on the net with agendas..

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  9. What a disgusting argument this is. It’s pathetic that we are even discussing who is what. We, human kind, are all a huge mixture of different backgrounds. Often, who we think we are and who we really are are two very different things.

    What sets us apart is how we treat eachother, how we respect our environment and our conscious behaviour. Where you are from doesn’t matter. Being chosen by God is so misinterpreted it’s untrue. More liberal (zionist) branches of Judaism believe this to mean superiority. That is the basis of fascism. No, I’m sorry that is it plain and simple. I couldn’t care less that my ancestry is both Sephardic and Irish, you know why because just like every other human being there will have been infidelities and adoptions and all kinds that will mean my and your gene pool is wider than many are happy to accept.

    I wholeheartedly agree with Shlomo Sand when he says that Jews feverishly trying to prove Jewishness through ethnicity and common blood is appaling and a crime. It’s what the Nazis were trying to do, head measurement…nose shapes and so on. Get a grip on yourselves. Be a Jew by your actions, not by your surname or some mythical idea of race. My God, we are going back 3,000 odd years. Grow up! No soul is better than any other. Children are losing their lives over this triviality.

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    • I don’t know about other peoples motives. Perhaps curiosity. But in Turkey, the inheritor of the Apartheid philosophy, constantly spending treasure to prove that the Armenians don’t belong in Anatolia, and that they are a “dark skinned Anatolian tribe of recent migration, that belongs somewhere else”.

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    • Lakenya, I’ve written a book on this with much of one chapter on the Lemba…it’s called Abraham’s Children. The Lemba are not direct descendants of Aaron (who we do not know even existed). About 55% of the Lemba Buba priestly claim carry the Cohen Modal Haplotype, which is one of a few priestly lineages but overall the male lineage appears Semitic in origin but not part of the priestly line.

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      • I admire your passion but that is far from the truth. The so called Israelis in Israel today are nothing more than Europeans. Just because you conquer a specific area and eventually blend in does not make you Jewish. Europeans have done this all over the globe trying to tell people who they are and what they are not!

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          • No bitch I’m the realist with DNA evidence! I know who I am what about you? Post your results and I will do the same liar.

          • No I have a very high on otherwise a troll like yourself wouldn’t have taken out the time to respond in such a way. You would’ve replied with an educated hypothesis or perspective.

        • Study to show thyself approved. The references are in the bible for reasons that help to open doors no one can shut and close doors no one can open.

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        • They can claim to be “Jewish” as a group who practice Judaism, but to claim to be Middle Eastern is just asking for ridicule. I am Middle Easterner and we just laugh at them.

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      • I have confirmed Lemba, Palestinian, Jordanian, Ethiopian, and Yemenite DNA. I got my dna results back last year. Men lie women lie but numbers, history, and science don’t. Anyone can attempt to refute anything with a theory tailored to their own perspective but that doesn’t make it accurate.

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        • Where did you get your DNA done? The 3 major DNA firms 23andme, ancestry and familytreedna have only Middle East as a genetic group and not broken down by country.

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    • Have you run across Armenian Genetic studies? 12% of Armenians are J1. Many are J-M 267 (Cohanim gene); Including me.

      And, there aren’t that many Lembas.

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  10. Genetic analyses of the origins of peoples has little likelihood of benefit & much risk of harm. Has any disease been cured by such study?

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  11. Lord have mercy. I am continually amazed at the ignorance displayed by Jews and none Jea s alike. This discussion continually recycles the same old myths. That the Jews are Kazarian, from the Caucasus, Egypt whatever. The participants seem to have agendas. Anti-Jews would want to prove that the Jews belonged somewhere else.; The Racist Jews who wannabe something else. All ignore both the scriptures, Linguistics and Genetics. Good luck to you all.

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  12. “””You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it. The Century Magazine January 1928 Volume 115, Number 3 pages 346-350 Marcus Eli Ravage Jewish Leader

    “We should turn Her (Russia) into a desert populated with white Niggers. We will impose upon them such a tyranny that was never dreamt by the most hideous despots of the East. The peculiar trait of that tyranny is that it will be enacted from the left rather than the right and it will be red rather than white in color.”– Leon Trotsky real name Lev Bronstein

    BENJAMIN FRANKLIN ON THE JEWS

    “There is a great danger for the United States of America, this great danger is the Jew. Gentlemen, in every land which the Jews have settled, they have depressed the normal level and lowered the degree of commercial honesty. They have remained apart and unassimilated — they have created a state within a state, and when they are opposed they attempt to strangle the nation financially as in the case of Portugal and Spain. For more than 1700 years, they have lamented their sorrowful fate — namely, that they were driven out of their motherland, but gentlemen, if the civilized world today should give them back Palestine and their property, they would immediately find pressing reasons for not returning there. Why? Because they are vampires — they cannot live among themselves; they must live among Christians and others who do not belong to their race .”If they are not excluded from the United States by the Constitution, within less than 100 years, they will stream into this country in such numbers they will rule and destroy us and change our form of Government for which we Americans shed our blood and sacrificed life, property and personal freedom. If the Jews are not excluded, within 200 years our children will be working in the fields to feed the Jews while they remain in the Counting House gleefully rubbing their hands. “I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews forever, your children’s children will curse you in your graves. Their ideas are not those of Americans even when they have lived among us for ten generations. The leopard cannot change its spots. The Jews are a danger to this land and if they are allowed to enter they will imperil our institutions — they should be excluded by the Constitution.”

    ~Statement in the Convention, concerning Jewish immigration to America and the danger it posed (1789)

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  13. Christianity is a race as well as a faith, the new covenant is clear on this point. The New covenant uses the same exact language as the old one calling Christians a holy race and a royal priesthood, a peculiar people for Gods own possession. This is not really a shocker since The New covenant comes out of the Hebrew prophet Jeremiah. Remember The Christians came out of the same three tribes as the pharisees (who later became the Talmudic Rabbis) ie Judah, Levi and Benjamin. Jesus in 33AD and Bar Kochba later on split Israel right down the middle. Some Israelites became Christians others became Talmudists. Both groups converted people from every tribe, people and nation, so you would expect to find the same DNA among both groups. And Id like to know how the scientists determined what authentic Jewish/Israelite DNA looks like to begin with? Where did they find an ancient israelite by which to compare these modern day Jews? and how did they know whether he was a convert or not? Even the father of modern Rabbinic Judaism, the man who crowned bar kochba ie. Rabbi Akiva was a gentile convert, so who did they dig up, how did they know what tribe he came from? How did they know he was an Israelite? Did they dig up several ancient Israelite people from different tribes or what? Even in Jesus genealogy you see many converts so even if they dug Jews up from 300 year before Jesus it would be impossible to know whether they converted. Conversion was common in ancient times. Anyone could become a jew In fact, the whole tribe of the edomites was converted by force in the days of John Hyracanus. So Id like to know where did they get this DNA to authenticate the Jews of today?

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  14. Half 36% negroid Jew Rothschild Adolf Hitler knew full well his cousins aren’t biblical Hebrew’s as did Egypt’s King Nassar who during an interview stated, “You Hebrew speaking Europeans left here black and returned white. You can have no peace here!”
    My DNA Y Chromosome is Shem E1b1a vs Khem E1b1a. Modern Jews, Sephardi have a admixture of which 36% is negroid. Rev 2:9, 3:9 refer to those who say they are Yahudi and are not but of the synagogue of Satan. I Mqccabees 3:48 refer to the Rennassaince Era of white washing history. In 1948 during a Tetrad Red Blood Moons the US, Europe and the UN kristened those Fakeraeli Jews with sovereignty in correlation with Daniels prophecy. Yet they are NOT scriptural Hebrews/Ibaryath/Eber. They fit none of the prophecies nor description of Hebrews ie Dabvrym 28: 14-68
    http://www.brothertarik.WordPress.com

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  15. Why do you link to Amazon books? You should link to sites that have your sources available for free. I read the first page of your book that was available fo preview. Honestly, it felt like I was reading a novel. I don’t want to read about how your throat clogged in the heat of the afternoon desert air. I just want facts and information when I click on a link about “dozens of sudies”. There are people who actually want to review the your sources and compare them to your interpretation.

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  16. White jews are not Semetic nor hebrew… they are of Japhet (Yefet) just like Palestinians, and only came into the area after 70AD.. imposters just like all other ethnical branches of (once upon a time converted ethnical groups of jews). Goodbye.

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    • To be a Jew you must have the Y-DNA of Jacob which is E1B1A.
      100% bloodline Jews. The posted comments left out the real Jews who are Black People. Folks, you need to get use to the fact that Black People are the real Jews.

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        • Completely deceptive post Helen. Many European Jews look middle eastern. Put Eugene Levy next to Dan Hedaya (Syrian Jewish), and get back to me.

          And genetic studies (the peer reviewed ones) prove that most ashkenazi jews are the same race as me (middle eastern).

          And of course some ashkenazi jews will look like that because their ancestors were raped by crusaders in central europe and by the cossacks in russia and eastern europe. Ashkenazim closed themselves off in shtetls, there were no mass conversions to their religion of judaism in eastern europe. A person would need only a little bit of admixing (via rape) to have a more northern european phenotype.

          Ashkenazi Jews on average look like David Mazouz (who is Sfaradi- Tunisian Jewish) and you know it. Nearly identical genetics to him and other sfaradim like myself.

          And some ashkenazi jews are darker than him. Ilana Glazer comes to mind, she looks completely nort

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          • ACTUALLY, The term “Middle Eastern’ was INVENTED in 1901, when they put a border Israel and separated it from Africa. Before that it WASN’T known as the Middle East. It was actually NORTH AFRICA ONLY on ancient maps.

            It was in the land of CANAAN, which History AND the Bible backs that up. Biblically speaking CANAAN was a descendant of HAM, who was of BLACK ORGIN, that spoke SEMETIC languages.
            The original inhabitants of Jerusalem were JEBUSITES, who derived from HAM.
            There’s even a Scripture–
            Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O
            children of Israel? saith the Lord.

            Ethiopians were from the land of KUSH/CUSH, which again was a region of HAM.
            The SHEMITES and HAMITES lived among each other and INTERMARRIED.

            And ASHKENAZIS look like that because they derived from EUROPE! They are NOT SEMETIC under SHEM, which would ANCESTRALLY make you a JEW, but under JAPHETH, which is where EUROPEANS derived from.

            And Sephardic Jews are Spain derived (JAPHETH), and later became known as Samaritans in the New Testament of the Bible.

            Genesis 10:3-when you look that up it says they were a NORTHERN, FOREIGN PEOPLE….(GOYIM) in the Strong’s.

    • Semitic is a linguistic sub-grouping.
      The term is a modern one.
      Stop flinging around terms you don’t understand.

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      • Actually he DOES know what he’s talking about!

        Semetic ALSO refers, BIBLICALLY, to you being from the lineage of SHEM in the Judaic and Christian faith. SHEM was one of the sons of Noah. JUDAH, along with the other 11 Tribes of Israel (are the SONS of JACOB, who’s name was CHANGED to ISRAEL) are DESCENDANTS of SHEM.

        The Bible makes it known in Genesis 10:3 that ASHKENAZ (Turks/Germans/Slavics, etc) and his descendants are NOT of SHEM and but of JAPHETH, which makes today’s ‘JEWS,’ Jewish by association of faith ONLY through CONVERSION, and not of ANCESTRY. It ALSO says in Genesis 10:3 that they are from the Isle of Gentiles (GOY).
        If you look ASHKENAZ up in the Strong’s, it says they are a NORTHERN, FOREIGN PEOPLE. GOYIM mean someone who is a NON-JEW.

        Ashkenazi’s ORIGINALLY spoke and STILL speak YIDDISH, which is of a GERMANIC language NOT SEMETIC.

        Bomberg who helped with publishing the Talmud was a CONVERT to Judism from the GERMANIC regions, who was linked to a ROMAN Pope.

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  17. Seems to me we have a problem if you don’t even believe if Aaron and Moses even existed. So why try to claim the Land of the Israelites as your inheritance then? what is the importance of the proof of DNA? Anyone with biblical understanding knows that if the DNA originates in Ancient Lebanon then we have an issue of High breeding and I can see how important that would be to want to hide. JESUS was and is the KING OF KINGS and the LORD OF LORDS, you can deny all you want but even you know your DNA can not be Changed and I know that it leads to clues of who you are..And now we have a world of peoples who find money out weighs the truth. Rome wears white beanies and Jews wear black, what a checker board of connections. Rome destroys the second temple and Jews except them as brothers today, that is a Wow that turns to a Woe! Jere 24 tells things pretty clear. And when they went into captivity didn’t the Levite’s come out with foreign wifes and halfbreed children, and a tribunal had to be set up for those who chose to stay in Israel to divorce their wifes and send them off.? Just follow the Name of Ashkenazi in the bible and you will find they were only to be helpers in the tents of Shem. The Y Chromosome is very specific to Jews . But the Jews have not been mindful or they thought YHVH would not lead his people to the truth that is so very obvious and that is there are 11 other tribal brothers who each have a name, beyond Judah. At the birth of YASHUA something very prophetic took place that set a new way to follow Israelite DNA that can not be denied when it comes forth. Praise be to YHVH. Let his glory shine and every knee will bow to him when he comes forth on the 7th Trumpet.

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  18. Hi, I have figured out a whole series of ancestors both civil and Jewish. Have tried my DNA in England , but I am not professional , so I must get help with and read my DNA lineage who ancestora were , one now in Israel Haifa in particular where my Genealogy Reseaech led to for example Geni.com – Ancestry.com – Myheritage.com and other Genealogical webber on the Internet.
    Hi, I will be even taken to be foreign in Israel so I had to make them aware of my international relations with Israel . In the upload Family Tree was accused of being an interactive Family Tree with few Jews , but as I said , there is a lack of the most ambiguous an Israeli blood tests.

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  19. Lot of confusion on this thread about the ancestry graphs that show Ashkenazi as a European group. One can be 99.9% Ashkenazi and still, most likely, about 50% European, 50% Middle Eastern by distant ancestry. Yes, the Ashkenazi as an ethno-religious group have been in Europe 1500-plus years. But current DNA science tells us a few things about the Ashkenazim. First, that they originated in pre-Christian times largely as a result of Jewish Middle Eastern men making their way across the northern shores of the Mediterranean (Greece, Italy), intermarrying with gentile women, and establishing communities throughout Southern Europe, and then later in the Rhineland, and then later still (15thC) into Eastern Europe. So yes, by virtue of almost 2000 years of history in Europe they are “European,” but genetically, they are a Middle Eastern/European hybrid people. I don’t know how those genetic facts support (or not) the Zionist backstory, but those appear to be the facts. Re. the Khazars- so what? They were not the only non-middle-Eastern peoples absorbed into the main body of the Jews. Moreover, Jews throughout the world exhibit hybrid genetics, though some smaller and more isolated groups (Romaniotes, Samaritans, Iraqis) are more closely related to their Middle Eastern ancestors, than are Ashkenazism.

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  20. Europe .. the gig is up! Jewish people are NOT the descendants of the biblical people. They are Europeans who converted to Judaism; nothing more. The true descendants of the Hebrew Israelite people, always have and still are a negroid people. And that people didn’t become Caucasian all of a sudden. History is recorded time and again, that the Khazar kingdom converted to Judaism. But common sense should tell anyone, that man was made from the earth. And now the most High’s chosen people are opposite of his original creation?? Not so. Leprosy was a curse towards Israelite. So now, that people are licked w/ a cursed, yet still His chosen?? Doesn’t make sense. Nor does it line up w/ anything that does. The gig is up!

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    • Not exactly.
      Ashkenazi Jews are a hybred of ancient Levantine people and Europeans.
      You need to get self esteem and embrace your actual heritage.
      When the white-man encountered your people in west Africa, they were practicing ago old religions, and none were Judaism.

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  21. God has began to cleave to us where we have been brought as bondmen and in chains of iron, wherein whites rowed upon our backs and hung us on trees. In this later day, we understand and except the Judgement of our God who was just in that he did to us. We have began to refuse the white lies that were fed to us along with pork. We touch no unclean thing. The Levites of the Tribe of Judah, we will drink the fullness of the cup of suffering our Father prepared for us. We reject every false way for God’s punishment is better than man’s reward. God has refined us in the furnace fire are feet are like polished brass. We have learnt humility and servitude to the Most High. We were swallowed by the whale of Jonah and brought to a strange land and have seen Egypt and our african cousins no more. Neither do we sacrifice to the queen of heaven, but have learned to respect the Law and commandment of our God. Our lands were taken by whites, we were enslaved and our memory erased as the people of God. Yet, we love the LORD our GOD for He has dove eyes.
    All our generations have been a holocaust, who has not owned us. Who was marred and disfigured like the son of Adam, the son of man and God’s Messiah. Although Gentiles defile the image of our Messiah, He has hidden nothing from us and declared all the Truth to us and the end of the ones that have done this in Israel his chosen people. We do not desire whites to recognize us as Jews, we hate the name Jew as we hate idols and images. We do not care for the Land or the tin, the silver the oil or the gold. Our desire is to love and serve our God , our Brother and Our Savior in peace. Our desire is for justice and that our Redeeming Brother repay those that have done these things in Israel for gain of riches and the burning of their flesh for our daughters mingling their blood with the sons of Adam. We pray our Father remove the image of jealousy from the earth and those that blasphemy His Word, His people and His Existence. We pray He cast them in the furnace fire. For the murderers that possess the Land this will be Abel’s testimony against you when you die and face judgement by God.

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  22. The tone of this piece undermines its credibility. It’s the same kind of reaction we find whenever a perception sacred to zionist mythology is challenged, be it the absurdity of a David vs. Goliath analogy in describing Israel vis a vis Arab nations in 1948 or the denial of Israel’s stranglehold over American institutions of government.

    For the very reason Entine cannot remain dispassionate toward the subject matter, he undermines his own words.

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  23. Wrong, it hasn’t always retained an “ancestral” component, because you are free to convert. The difficulty of converting be that as it may, you are still able to, which dismantles the entire theory surrounding its roots as an ancestry.

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  24. The author does know that this man is not a geneticist, never has been, Elhaik has a degree in migration studies, has no medical degree, which you would need to be a geneticist. What is even more funny is the claim, he has never been published in any medical journal, that is where the Real Geneticist publish their works, if he has, then show the articles. He has been disproved by every actual geneticist out there. If you are going to present articles making such claims at least show the proof to back up these claims.

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  25. Isn’t using Y-dna studies to show Ashkenazi Jews middle eastern origins misleading?
    What about their 44 Autosomal markers and mitochondrial DNA?
    Pretty shady…
    If you clowns used Y-Dna of southern Italians and many Greeks, it would also show a middle eastern origin…..

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  26. PALESTINE BELONGS TO THE NATIVE PALESTINIANS GET THE ASHKENAZI TERRORISTS THE HELL OUT OF PALESTINE. SHAME ON TRUMP FOR SUPPORTING THESE THUGS RELIGIOUS FANATICS AND TERRORIST WHO MURDER PALESTINIAN CHILDREN FOR RECREATION@!! HELL AWAITS THEM AND THEIR ASS KISSING AMERICANS DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS!!

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  27. “set of genetic markers that trace back approximately three thousand years to a single common ancestor.”
    Where did you get that 3000 year old DNA to test for a priesthood bloodline?

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  28. Jewish law doesn’t use genetics or place of origin to determine who a Jew is. Yes, Hitler falsely labeled Jews a race. New DNA studies do not show a 50/50 split between European and Middle Eastern (ME), or Levant DNA. The Jews of Europe, who’ve been in Europe for thousands of years, show European DNA. Overwhelmingly, and particularly through the matrilineal line.

    However, even if you could prove that 2,000 years ago some Jewish folks could claim ancestry to the ME my answer would be, “so what”?. It means nothing. Jews are so far removed from the ME that it doesn’t even show up in their DNA profile. Southern Italians, many, have been surprised to find anywhere from 10-25% ME DNA. The Jews of Europe, when given a DNA test always show 97-99% European DNA; not a shred of DNA from the ME.

    Further, the Jews of Europe aren’t different from other Europeans. There is no racial difference or genetic difference from a German Mueller or a German Meyer. The difference or variance is the fact that for hundreds to thousands of years, the Jews of Europe remained an isolated religious group. Sometimes by their own choice and other times forcefully. This led to those Jews marrying only inside their religious circles. Many Jews are closely related as 4-6th cousins. That doesn’t mean they aren’t European. That means they married within their own religious communities.

    I’m strictly speaking of European Jews. For example, there are around 2,500 Arab Jews in Morocco and around 1,000 in Tunisia.

    We snicker at blacks who call themselves “African American” and not a one has ever been to, or knows anything about Africa. Yet, somehow Jews who’ve been removed for thousands of years from the ME can claim a “genetic link” or call Israel their “ancestral homeland”. Please! Absurd.

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  29. I take issue with your assertion that the question of Cahanim being descended from Aaron is unknowable and we don’t even know that Aaron and Moses existed…. “In the Torah, that blood link is patrilineal, passed on from father to son. That tradition is preserved today in the Jewish priesthood, known as the Aaronite line. According to the Bible (and we have no way to know if this is historical or apocryphal), Aaron was anointed as the first Jewish priest and his sons and their descendants became the seed population of the Jewish priesthood. Jewish Cohanim—the word means ‘priests’ in Hebrew—supervised the inner sanctum until the destruction of the Second Temple in the first century, after which the Aaronite line was preserved by tradition, with Cohanim having special privileges and responsibilities to this day.

    Are present day Cohanim descended from Aaron? That question is unanswerable; we do not even know for certain that Aaron or Moses even existed. However, DNA studies of the Y chromosome have determined that a majority of self-proclaimed Cohanim (it’s an oral tradition) has a set of genetic markers that trace back approximately three thousand years to a single common ancestor. In other words, if there was no Aaron, there was certainly a High Priest early in the Jewish tradition whose ancestors have retained evidence of that tradition in their DNA.”… It is because the Jews were matrilineally /Ethnically defined the question is indeed knowable …. we can find out the the existence of Aaron and Moses by searching for their Y-DNA Haplogroups, after all Patriarchal lineages are simply Y-DNA Haplogroups which have all been mapped out. you simply have to find the Y-DNA Haplogroup that Matches the Patriarchal genealogies of Abraham The genetic Arabs and Jews and the 12 tribes of Israel must all be a part of the same Y-DNA haplogroup and also contain the twin births of Jacob and Israel. This type of detail makes the Identification of the race of the chosen people beyond refute and entirely possible. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c09bd2a8b24341787de223f3afef830f907dfa9565670ff9c710c4bb21c5a833.jpg scripture the Torah gives us exact descriptions as well of the descendants of Jacob/Israel and Esau along with the Paternal genealogies ,,,, all that is necessary is to match the biblical with the Scientific.

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