Myth busting: There is no such thing as GMO sugar

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Roughly 55 percent of the United States sugar supply is derived from sugar beets, the remainder from sugarcane. Until recently, no one really cared about the source of their sugar, because the end product, pure sucrose, is identical. What changed the dialogue was the introduction of and acceptance of genetically engineered (GE) sugar beets. Right from the start and continuing today, anti-GMO organizations have tried their hardest to scare people about where their sugar is sourced from:Screen Shot 2015-12-13 at 6.37.34 PM

Those are bizarre claims because sucrose — sugar — whether derived from sugar cane or sugar beets, contains to DNA. No lab could determine its source. Warnings to consumers to boycott so-called GMO sugar makes no scientific sense.

Kevin Folta, Chairman of the Horticultural Sciences Department at the University of Florida, nicely illustrates how all sugar is the same, regardless of source.Screen Shot 2015-12-13 at 6.39.11 PM

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This has been proven in the lab. The sugar is free from DNA and protein since it is all chewed up during the refining process. This has also been proven at the commercial scale. Every sugar beet processing plant in the U.S. and Canada has been screened by an independent testing organization and all the sugar was found to be GMO-free.

Other countries freely accept and understand this unique quality of sugar and some, like Australia, allow sugar derived from GE sugar beets to be labeled as GMO-free since the final product contains no GE trait.

GE sugar grown in cooperative farms

In a time when many people are interested in supporting small farms and buying food locally, it is also sadly ironic that sugar beets are being so vilified. Most sugar beets in the U.S. are sourced from grower-owned cooperatives. Small family farmers run the whole business from the planting of the seed to sale of the sugar. Their job has become increasingly difficult because of the fear and misinformation related to contamination and elimination of choice rooted in activist opposition to GE sugar beets.

According to Jeffrey Smith, the former yogic flying instructor who runs the one-man NGO pompously named The Institute for Responsible Technology, GE sugar beets contain pharmaceutical properties. That’s plain false. There is only one type of GE sugar beet seed: herbicide tolerant. This sugar beet was genetically engineered by introducing a slightly modified version of a gene (based on a bacterial sequence) that naturally occurs in all plants. That precise, minor genetic change has manifested into large environmental benefit for sugar beet farmers.

Prior to commercial approval of the GE sugar beet, a comprehensive, peer reviewed study conducted at the University of Reading in Britain concluded that cultivating GE herbicide tolerant sugar beets is less harmful to the environment and human health than farming conventional sugar beets.

… global warming, ozone depletion, ecotoxicity of water and acidification and nutrification of soil and water, were much lower for the herbicide-tolerant crop than for the conventional crop. Emissions contributing to summer smog, toxic particulate matter and carcinogenicity, which have negative human health impacts, were also substantially lower for the herbicide-tolerant crop.

Since 2009, glyphosate tolerant sugar beets have made up more than 95 percent of the commercial sugar beet production in the U.S. Over that time, inputs and productivity data gathered from farmer-owned cooperatives show 25 environmental benefits to using GE sugar beets, ranging from 20 percent higher yields and reduced chemical input, to implementation of conservation tillage and reduced fossil fuel consumption. The findings highlight the importance of genetic engineering in the long term sustainability of the farmer-owned industry.

In 2015, the cooperatives submitted a formal report to the National Academy of Sciences as part of their mission to improve public policy, decision making and public understanding of science. So when anti-GMO ideologues such as Washington-based Green America asks whether sugar beets can be non-GE in the future, the real question should be should sugar beets be non-GE in the future? With so many benefits to the growers and the planet, my answer to that question would be a resounding “no”. Nevertheless, all commercial sugar beet seed companies still actively produce conventional seeds so the U.S. farmers and food marketers will always have a choice as to whether or not they want to embrace GE technology.

What about cross contamination?

Sugar beets are biennial and do not produce flowers when grown for sugar; the only time pollen is shed from a sugar beet plant is during seed production. All commercial seed production for the entire U.S. occurs in Oregon. Sugar beets are close relatives of Swiss chard and table beets, so they can fertilize each other and they are all present in Oregon.

Upon introduction of GE sugar beets, the sugar beet seed companies recognized the need to voluntarily implement practices to reduce the risk of unintended pollen flow. They identified publically where they were located so organic farmers could mind isolation distances, they increased their minimum isolation distance to greater than twice the Oregon Seed Certification program mandate, and they moved the GE trait to the female side of the hybrid (the side that does not produce pollen) so only conventional pollen would be present.

Despite these measures, in 2008, the activist Center for Food Safety backed an Oregon organic seed producer, Frank Morton, in suing the Federal government over the perceived threat of contamination. Despite all the uproar, claims of lost business and imminent threat, Morton still rund a thriving business today. Morton is not alone in over-exaggerating risk. As the Genetic Literacy Project wrote in an article posted in November, “There is no record that any farmer in the U.S. has ever lost certification as a result of so-called “contamination” — although one would never know it based on the propaganda on the web.”Screen Shot 2015-12-13 at 6.40.38 PM

When examining the facts behind the fear, the risks associated with biotech beets is minimal. Although there is an overwhelming scientific consensus on GE crop safety, some are still leery of consuming foods made with crops grown from GE seeds, but with sugar, the product in the bag is still GMO-free. Moreover, production farm data has shown that using GE sugar beets to produce that sugar is friendly for the farmer and our environment.

With solid coexistence strategies among farmers in place, there is little threat that one farmer’s choice to cultivate GE sugar beets would negatively impact his neighbor’s ability to raise organic crops. Advocacy groups that encourage consumers to avoid sugar derived from GE sugar beets really only target small, farmer-owned businesses.

Rebecca Larson holds a doctorate in plant pathology and is the proud mother of a bouncing baby boy. Follow Rebecca at @sugaryfacts.

  • crush davis

    This is one of my favorite lies by the anti-transgenic crop activists. It’s also one my favorites to call them on.

  • loreli

    I hear the beet industry has hired shills to post pro GMO comments. Let the games begin Monsanto.

    • Loren Eaton

      First, where do I sign up for some of those shill bucks? (Read: this argument is totally lame.)
      Second, there’s no such thing as genetically engineered sugar.

      • gmoeater

        Loren, loreli and the rest think we are so wise that our pearls of wisdom are worth paying for! Cool! I hadn’t known I was worth so much money, just posting generalized science opinions. Maybe she can get me my shill bucks too. Like you, I have been waiting for them. But from whom? Monsanto? Pioneer? Syngenta? So many seed companies, so few shill dollars ….

        • I didn’t choose the shill life; the shill life chose me!

          • agscienceliterate

            Destiny, FSMP. Destiny. It’s a tough job, but someone’s got to do it.

      • Stuart M.

        The ad hominem attack is usually used at the end of arguments when losers have no more arguments to support their case. They vent their frustration by attacking the character of their opponent. It’s interesting that lorelei’s very first comment here is an ad hominem.

        • Farmer with a Dell

          Sort of refreshing to have ’em cut to the chase and first thing play the damned “shill” card (equivalent to sounding retreat) without flaming the place. Conserves bandwidth, too, so clearly it’s the socially responsible thing to do.

        • gmoeater

          Does that mean Lorelei is a loser right out of the gate? You notice his/her response is crickets.

      • Karen Tough
    • Farmer Sue

      Lorelei, are you seriously saying you do not believe that the end product of GE sugar beets is sugar that is exactly the same at the molecular level as non-GE sugar beets? I can help you get over your profound ignorance easily. Talk to a sugar beet farmer. Call your local farm bureau. And do you really think that farmers only buy GE seeds from Monsanto? Are you a troll for ignorance? Do you have a conspiracy paranoia going on? That I can’t help you with.

      • WeGotta

        Death is the same whether it comes at age 10 as a result of murder or at age 103 in your sleep as a result of too much whiskey.
        The way things happen matters.

        Pure, refined sugar is a relatively new thing in our diets and scientifically speaking it hasn’t been very good for our health. Why aid in making it cheaper and more available? Not very scientific or modern thinking is it?

        • Stuart M.

          This is a website about biotechnology and its beneficial role in agriculture. If you want to complain about the American diet, stand in line elsewhere.

          • WeGotta

            Holy cow.
            Another person I would never let decide what was safe for me to eat or not.

            You do understand that biotechnology and agriculture are directly related to food and that a diet is comprised of food right?

          • Farmer with a Dell

            You let Food Babe decide for you. We know, We get it.

          • Farmer Sue

            Anyone who seriously refers to herself as “Food Babe” has a screw or two loose. And Vani Hari certainly does. (Who takes that dimwit seriously?) I have just finished reading the excellent book “Fear Babe: Shattering Vani Hari’s Glass House,” about the profound ignorance of Vani Hari and other anti-science activists and how little they know, or care to learn about GE foods, or about science in general. It’s written by Mark Alsip, Kavin Senapathy, Marc Draco, with forward and chapters by Dr. Kevin Folta. An excellent book about the science behind genetic engineering, and the myths and fearmongering (and huge profits) created to mislead the public around chemicals, pesticides, toxins, corporate conspiracies, and little green men from outer space.

          • agscienceliterate

            I have also read it, and it is an excellent book that answers all of the questions of the anti-biotech folks on this site. Not that they would read it, I speculate.

          • madattak

            You’re complaining about the unhealthily high quantity of refined sugar Americans consume, which is a problem, but not particularly related to the actual argument: Is sugar from GM beet worse than from regular beet? The answer being no.

            If you don’t want to sugar to be made cheaper it makes far more sense to make the consumer more aware of it’s present and adverse effects, or even to just tax it more. Increasing the price by using inefficient and outdated tech makes little sense.

          • WeGotta

            I was replying to the comment above.

            There is no way you can say that sugar from a GM beet is not worse than sugar from a regular beet.

            For the same reason that no one could say that arriving at your house after a car trip is any better or worse than if you took a plane.
            Way too many variables to make such a simplistic statement.

            The arguments over GMO gloss over many of these variables. People who claim to be “experts”, farmers and/or “scientists” also try and pretend that life is some controlled laboratory experiment where all the variables are accounted for and controlled.
            It is not.

            The FDA is supposed to be watching out for our health.
            It is not or it would be doing some of the things you suggest.

            Thanks.

        • dfgsdgdgsdf

          How about using common sense and stop stuffing your face with donuts all day?
          Refined sugar has absolutely zero health effects when eaten in moderation

      • Van

        Lore lei will not care. She is determined to stand by her ignorance.

        • gmoeater

          Many of the commenters here are the same. They know their opinion, by God, and ain’t no science or reason gonna change that. They know what they know, and they’re stickin’ to it. Makes you wonder how they ever got through school. Maybe they didn’t.
          A stand for ignorance is a page right out of Fewd Boob’s playbook, and I think she sends ’em over here with their weak little pseudo-ideas, and gives ’em a discount on her product$ that $he promote$ $hamle$$ly and benefit$ from. Talk about shills! Ha!

    • Oh, “you hear?” Stop the presses! M0ron.

      • Farmer Sue

        Maybe she hears a lot of things the rest of us don’t hear. Voices, you know. Telling her stuff.

    • Farmer Sue

      How much can I make by supporting biotechnology, loreli? What if I buy my seeds from Syngenta — will Monsanto still pay me? Per word? Per post?

    • First Officer

      Does the OCA pay you like Gary Ruskin?

  • Good4U

    Glyphosate resistant beets were the best thing to happen to the sugarbeet industry in my lifetime. Before that occurred the fields were prone to be taken over by kochia and other weeds. I’ve stood in those fields and witnessed the weed competition that was clearly evident. Growers were spraying their fields with triazines, chloroacetanilides, sulfonylureas, imidazolinones, and many other types of herbicides to no avail. The wingnuts who protest against GMOs have no concept of what the world would be without them.

    • Farmer Sue

      Good4U, that is a great comment. Sugar beet farmers in my area using GE technology (and most sugar beets are GE because of their production and environmental advantages) have a 40% higher yield than pre-GE technology, and using many less pesticides. And the sugar produced is exactly the same — a lab would not be able to tell the difference between processed GE sugar and processed non-GE (cane) sugar. This article is an excellent educational piece about GE sugar beets. Anyone reading this article who disagrees, posting mindless drivel based on yuppie urban concrete-dwelling uninformed political activist grounds, just has their uneducated minds slammed shut tighter than a hog’s ass at fly time.

      • “…tighter than a hog’s ass at fly time.”
        Somehow, some way, I will find a way to use this expression in a sentence before the day is over!

      • ColoradoBrit

        Thank you for your various posts, Sue, including this one.

        I find the discussion about GMO’s on these pages to be very disappointing, in this sense. If someone is opposed to GMO’s, then please explain why in a scientific manner. In this case, why the molecular structure of sucrose is different according to the method used to raise the plant it came from.

        I’d like to know what is the opposition to GMO’s. But not with wild ramblings, crazy allegations, bad information, non-sequiturs and complete red herrings. Tell me scientifically!

        • Ashley Lamb

          I dont’ think it has to do with the molecular structure of the sucrose involved. That’s not what has been altered. You aren’t growing sucrose, you are growing a whole plant with many other chemical compositions involved.

          Why don’t you google “scientific reasons gmos are bad”? You will find a plethora of reasons to avoid them. Many many studies have been published on the harmful effects of genetic modification. Or search “gmo corn lab rats”.

          If you look historically at things we used to think were harmless and turned out to be far from it, you will find things like DDT and tobacco, among many others.

          Why would anyone think the pesticides, herbicides and such like Roundup are any different?

          People really still trust others whom they don’t even know and that are making a profit from them to do what is best for them? They will do what is best for their pockets most of the time….

          • ColoradoBrit

            Oh my goodness, Ashley……. what kind of fantasy world are you living in? You need to get some education before you post comments like yours……. naieve doesn’t even begin to describe it.

          • Stuart M.

            “People really still trust others whom they don’t even know and that are making a profit from them to do what is best for them? They will do what is best for their pockets most of the time….”

            Ashley, take your own medicine! Do you really know Jeff Smith, The Food Babe, Dr. Oz, etc.? Do you think they are spreading their lies for free out of the goodness of their heart? No, they are getting stinking rich by lying to you.

          • agscienceliterate

            Google University has about as much credibility as Trump University.
            You need to educate yourself about organic mutagenesis, and about organic-approved pesticides.
            If you want to go off on a tirade about “profit,” without looking silly, you need to take a look at the $60 Billion Big Organic industry, that sells fearmongering and pseudoscience in order to convince you (successfully, apparently) to buy their products.

        • Bryan West

          i dont have any problem with gmos but i think the refusal to label is horrible. people can and do have reactions to miniscule amounts of new chemicals… like the new pesticides used on gmo items. i had my own bout with high fructose corn syrup which every doctor i talked to told me was impossible. yet i could eat bread (jelly, soda, cookies, desert… that stuff is in everything) made with it and start throwing up the next day. the docs finally decided that i was reacting to the sulfer or something else it is processed with. regardless a label to allow people who cant handle it to avoid it is a GREAT idea.

          • Farmer with a Dell

            Bryan, you must have misread ColoradoBrit’s wish to NOT be accosted with “wild ramblings, crazy allegations, bad information, non-sequiturs and complete red herrings”. Looks like you’ve basically done your utmost to score 5 out of a possible 5, and in a most compact form — a single sentence. As for what really caused you to toss your cookies, who knows, maybe orthorexia? All we can say for certain is you have done an outstanding job of regurgitating the anti-GMO rhetoric onto us…plus a meaningless anecdote, to boot. Nicely done Bryan!

          • Bryan West

            Nice, completely side stepping the argument. As agscience pointed out the labelling was recently passed. Oops. As for the rest how is requiring people to label their products bad? The substance I was allergic to was in hfc, even the docs couldn’t argue that. Current medical science, as you pointed out, swears that is impossible. and yet for a long time they refused to label it so I couldn’t avoid it. And even when forced to label it they hid it behind dozens of different names. Oh and I never said hfc was a gmo. I pointed out they have similar problems. As in trace amounts of stuff we know little about the effects of. For most of us both are fine, for some it’s not. The law has apparently already fallen in favor of labelling so let us non shills talk.

          • Farmer with a Dell

            /s

            Well, if we’re mandating frivolous vanity labels now (and we are, it seems), then I require all foods grown or handled in any fashion by left-handed persons to be labeled because I fear those creepy lefties (some of them are criminals, you know) and I might have anxiety attacks if I think I am eating any of that tainted food. We need to tattoo orthorexics on the forehead, too, so I will know them on sight at a distance — orthorxics make me want to throw up, you know. Sure, you can say that’s not possible but I know it is and the world should be changed to accommodate my trendy psychoses.

            /sarcasm off

          • agscienceliterate

            Yeah, but I didn’t say I thought it was a great idea. It was a concession to activists. Not to science. Why is mutagenesis not labeled? Thousands of randomly scrambled genes, done in a lab to seeds, including organic, with no labeling, no oversight, no testing. OK with you though, right?
            Labeling for a process (genetic engineering is not a “thing,” as I have pointed out to you before) is irrelevant, if the finished product, like sugar in this article, is exactly the same molecularly. Also irrelevant if there is no significant difference in nutrition or calories.
            Labeling just because activists want it done to satisfy their anti-GE agenda is just pandering to the anti-science crowd.

          • ColoradoBrit

            Bryan…….. respectfully, it is you who have side-stepped the argument. If you have a reaction to a common food ingredient, I am sorry to hear that. I have worked with colleagues who had such allergies (e.g. to peanuts) and it’s no fun. But it’s your own personal situation and has nothing to do with the broader discussion.

            Originally……… whether GMO sugar contains DNA. It doesn’t. Then the discussion extended to whether foods should be labelled as “contains GMO’s”. If you are going to label food this way, you might as well do so for just about every item in the grocery store, regardless of whether it’s one selling organic food or not. We humans have been eating GMO’s since the beginning of modern agriculture thousands of years ago.

            The techniques may have been called something else, e.g. selective breeding, mutagenesis, grafting, etc. But the goal was always the same — to change the genetic profile of the plant or animal to acquire more desirable properties.

            Brassicas are a great example. If you saw a a wild plant in your yard, you would most likely pull it as a weed. Yet from this wild type, cauliflower, Brussel sprouts, kale, broccoli have been bred. Are all these plants genetically identical? Of course not…….. their genes have been modified!

          • Peter Olins

            Kale? Proof of the existence of Satan.

          • ColoradoBrit

            You may have a point on that particular issue!

          • Mary

            It is relevant where man’s technological meddling in our biology, including the foods it produces, is concerned – and that is what GMOs are about.

            Here’s some science for the cause of allergies:

            VACCINE INDUCED PEANUT ALLERGIES and OTHERS:
            “ ….only about 40% of the [vaccine] ingredients are ever listed on the vaccine packaging, as the laws just don’t enforce it.”
            [A most telling confession to the issue of no labeling required]

            This Pediatrician, Lawrence B. Palevsky, M.D., explains how many ingredients (adjuvants) existing in vaccines are not reported or required to be reported about the vaccine, and that may PRODUCE ALLERGIES….
            http://www.drpalevsky.com/articles_pages/346_Peanut_Oil_in_Vaccines_Since%20the_1960s.asp
            https://www.facebook.com/Lawrence-B-Palevsky-MD-110703415650945/

            (And this is a common practice for the FDA – to NOT require reporting MANY ingredients in foods and vaccines and medications, and in many other warnings. You can verify that by going to the FDA website or emailing them. – AND THE NEED FOR CONSUMER INFORMATION)

            SUMMARY:
            Dr. Palevsky describes how COW (bovine, casein, milk) derived adjuvants do in fact cause milk allergies – as well as peanut, yeast, eggs, even causing Crohn’s disease, psychosis, bipolar, and schizophrenia.
            (Let me add that the intestinal system has over 500 million neurons – more than the spinal cord – which carry junk to the brain if intestines are compromised. Paper: “The enteric nervous system and gastrointestinal innervation: integrated local and central control.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24997029 )

            And here is some science papers on those adjuvant immune responses (there are more):
            Immune activation by CASEIN dietary antigens in bipolar disorder”:
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21176030

            “Subunit and whole molecule specificity of the ANTI-BOVINE CASEIN immune response in recent onset psychosis and schizophrenia”:
            http://www.schres-journal.com/article/S0920-9964(09)00621-5/abstract

            Also EGG and SOY protein in vaccine producing allergies:
            “The Prevnar vaccine [PREVNAR 13 (Pneumococcal 13-valent Conjugate Vaccine [Diphtheria CRM197 Protein]] contains soy protein, and we’ve seen a large rise in allergies and sensitivities to soy protein in the population”: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM201669.pdf

            BREWER’S YEAST (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) used to produce vaccines – the highest being Hepatitis B, it’s anti-bodies are specific markers for the inflammatory disease Crohn’s disease:
            “Optimising the diagnostic value of anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae-antibodies (ASCA) in Crohn’s disease”:
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=14745572

            “Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae antibodies in inflammatory bowel disease: a family study”:
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=11252413
            NOTICE… the conclusion says: “…environmental factors may also play a certain role.”
            = Vaccines ARE environmental factors, YET they are never considered to look at by most.

            But not only vaccines but MANY MANY MEDICATIONS are made GMO – these are only from INSECT cells: red blood cells for example for treating anemia, kidney disease, bone production after chemotherapy and radiation:
            http://genetics.thetech.org/about-genetics/making-medicines
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2679063/

            So that covers pesticides, GMOs, oxidative toxins, fake-processed foods, vaccines, medications, gene expression – all environmental… but ALL MAN-MADE.

            Here is a small sample of scientific evidence provided by prominent scientists:

            HORIZONTAL GENE TRANSFER to HUMAN DNA STUDIES (or to other species):

            1. Here is a list of 230 scientists and geneticists opposed to GMOs since its inception:
            http://www.ensser.org/fileadmin/user_upload/131030_signatories_as_of_131030_lv.pdf

            2. Evidence CONFIRMS reality of HORIZONTAL GENE TRANSFER to other SPECIES (that’s US!) in GMOs :
            http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GE-horizontalgenetransfer.php

            3. DNA from GMOs can pass directly INTO HUMANS, study confirms : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14730317

            4. SCIENCE:
            http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0069805

            5. 2013: “Ban GMOs Now – Health & Environmental Hazards – Especially in the Light of the New Genetics” The most complete up-to-date summary of the dangers of GM agriculture in 52 pages:
            http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Ban_GMOs_Now.pdf

            6. The Case for a GM-Free Sustainable World – A Summary
            (Dozens of prominent scientists from seven countries …… joined forces to launch themselves as an Independent Science Panel on GM at a public conference, attended by UK environment minister Michael Meacher and 200 other participants, in London on 10 May 2003)
            http://www.i-sis.org.uk/ispr-summary.php

            7. Open Letter from World Scientists to All Governments Concerning Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)- in 2000:
            http://www.i-sis.org.uk/list.php

            8. This is a pretty good summary of many studies on GMO horizontal gene transfer:
            http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Recent+evidence+confirms+risks+of+horizontal+gene+transfer.-a096893512

            9. 2013 And what must the following say about GMO bacteria transferring to human DNA?
            http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/36108/title/Bacterial-DNA-in-Human-Genomes/

            10. More data showing risks of horizontal gene transfer/changes…
            “After mixing just a single meal of RNA into the natural diet of the worker bee larvae, as the bees grew older, scientists discovered that a staggering

            1461 GENES SHOWED SIGNIFICANT CHANGES…” !!!!! …WTF ?!

            http://responsibletechnology.org/Why%20Scientists%20are%20worried%20about%20the%20GMO%20potato%20and%20apple%204.8.15%20Final.pdf
            WATCH the VIDEO here:
            http://www.responsibletechnology.org/posts/why-scientists-are-worried-about-the-gmo-potato-and-apple/

            11. Scientist Richard Strohman, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Department of Molecular and Cell Biology:
            “The number of questions, the number of possibilities for what happens to a cell, to the whole organism when you insert a foreign gene, are almost incalculable.”
            http://www.saynotogmos.org/scientists_speak.htm .

            12. GMO MYTH AND TRUTHS
            A most comprehensive science-based, heavily referenced review
            (Point by point )
            http://www.saynotogmos.org/ud2012/fp-content/docs/GMO_Myths_and_Truths.pdf

            Written by:
            Scientist Michael Antoniou, PhD -molecular genetics and head of Gene Expression and Therapy Group, King’s College London School of Medicine, London, UK.
            with over 40 peer reviewed publications of original work, and holds inventor status on a number of gene expression biotechnology patents…. John Fagan PhD and Claire Robinson MPhil

            13. Agrobacterium is used as a vehicle to insert GMO genes into plants. Agrobacterium has been found in Human DNA of those suffering Morgellons disease….

            “Vitaly Citovsky is a professor of molecular and cell biology at Stony Brook University in New York (SUNY). He is a world authority on the genetic modification of cells by Agrobacterium, a soil bacterium causing crown gall disease in plants, that has been widely used in creating genetically modified (GM) plants since the 1980s because of its ABILITY TO TRANSFER a piece of its genetic material, the T-DNA on its tumor-inducing (Ti) plasmid to the plant genome…”
            http://m.pnas.org/content/98/4/1871

            “…we demonstrated that this plant pathogen can in FACT GENETICALLY TRANSFORM HUMAN CELLS.”
            http://www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/biochem/research/faculty/citovsky.html
            http://www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/biochem/research/faculty/citovsky/

          • Mary

            Bryan… and all others…..
            I believe you are more than right, Brian:

            High fructose corn syrup IS derived from GMO beet sugar. HFCS, btw, is responsible for plaque and circulatory problems that end in high blood pressure, strokes, and heart problems – science-based. And, more recently, which also speaks to the overabundance of pesticides use, due to GMOs, and which are found to affect GENE-EXPRESSION:
            “Children with autism could well be exhibiting an epigenetic response to several neurotoxic substances at once, including, but not limited to, inorganic Hg, Pb, OP pesticides and/or HFCS. The combined effect of these substances acting together is likely greater than the sum of the effects of the substances acting by themselves. This effect likely reduces neuronal plasticity and impairs learning capacity in autistic children.”

            “Consumption of HFCS may lead to mineral imbalances, including Zn, Ca and P loss and Cu gain and is a potential source of inorganic mercury exposure. These mineral imbalances create multiple pathways for oxidative stress in the brain from exposure to OP pesticides and heavy metals, such as Pb or Hg. Inorganic mercury and fructose exposure from HFCS consumption may both modulate PON1 gene expression. With a reduction in PON1 activity, there is a potential for increasing homocysteine levels which are associated with genome-wide DNA hypomethylation that may carry over from one generation to the next, affecting both neurodevelopment and autism prevalence.”
            That’s here:
            http://clinicalepigeneticsjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1868-7083-4-6

            And here is some science that may explain your HFCS allergy – HFCS is used in vaccines. Excepients, ingredients, and adjuvants in vaccines include: HFCS (gmo), milk (gmo feed), peanut, soy (gmo), eggs (gmo feed), yeast (could be gmo/recombinant bacterialcultures), and MANY others – even insect gmo/recombinant cells….

            VACCINE INDUCED PEANUT ALLERGIES and OTHERS:
            “ ….only about 40% of the [vaccine] ingredients are ever listed on the vaccine packaging, as the laws just don’t enforce it.”
            [A most telling confession to the issue of no labeling required]

            This Pediatrician, Lawrence B. Palevsky, M.D., explains how many ingredients (adjuvants) existing in vaccines are not reported or required to be reported about the vaccine, and that may PRODUCE ALLERGIES….
            http://www.drpalevsky.com/articles_pages/346_Peanut_Oil_in_Vaccines_Since%20the_1960s.asp
            https://www.facebook.com/Lawrence-B-Palevsky-MD-110703415650945/

            (And this is a common practice for the FDA – to NOT require reporting MANY ingredients in foods and vaccines and medications, and in many other warnings. You can verify that by going to the FDA website or emailing them. – AND THE NEED FOR CONSUMER INFORMATION)

            SUMMARY:
            Dr. Palevsky describes how COW (bovine, casein, milk) derived adjuvants do in fact cause milk allergies – as well as peanut, yeast, eggs, even causing Crohn’s disease, psychosis, bipolar, and schizophrenia.
            (Let me add that the intestinal system has over 500 million neurons – more than the spinal cord – which carry junk to the brain if intestines are compromised. Paper: “The enteric nervous system and gastrointestinal innervation: integrated local and central control.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24997029 )

            And here is some science papers on those adjuvant immune responses (there are more):
            Immune activation by CASEIN dietary antigens in bipolar disorder”:
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21176030

            “Subunit and whole molecule specificity of the ANTI-BOVINE CASEIN immune response in recent onset psychosis and schizophrenia”:
            http://www.schres-journal.com/article/S0920-9964(09)00621-5/abstract

            Also EGG and SOY protein in vaccine producing allergies:
            “The Prevnar vaccine [PREVNAR 13 (Pneumococcal 13-valent Conjugate Vaccine [Diphtheria CRM197 Protein]] contains soy protein, and we’ve seen a large rise in allergies and sensitivities to soy protein in the population”: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM201669.pdf

            BREWER’S YEAST (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) used to produce vaccines – the highest being Hepatitis B, it’s anti-bodies are specific markers for the inflammatory disease Crohn’s disease:
            “Optimising the diagnostic value of anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae-antibodies (ASCA) in Crohn’s disease”:
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=14745572

            “Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae antibodies in inflammatory bowel disease: a family study”:
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=11252413
            NOTICE… the conclusion says: “…environmental factors may also play a certain role.”
            = Vaccines ARE environmental factors, YET they are never considered to look at by most.

            But not only vaccines but MANY MANY MEDICATIONS are made GMO – these are only from INSECT cells: red blood cells for example for treating anemia, kidney disease, bone production after chemotherapy and radiation:
            http://genetics.thetech.org/about-genetics/making-medicines
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2679063/

            So that covers pesticides, GMOs, oxidative toxins, fake-processed foods, vaccines, medications, gene expression – all environmental… but ALL MAN-MADE.

            Here is a small sample of scientific evidence provided by prominent scientists:

            HORIZONTAL GENE TRANSFER to HUMAN DNA STUDIES (or to other species):

            1. Here is a list of 230 scientists and geneticists opposed to GMOs since its inception:
            http://www.ensser.org/fileadmin/user_upload/131030_signatories_as_of_131030_lv.pdf

            2. Evidence CONFIRMS reality of HORIZONTAL GENE TRANSFER to other SPECIES (that’s US!) in GMOs :
            http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GE-horizontalgenetransfer.php

            3. DNA from GMOs can pass directly INTO HUMANS, study confirms -https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14730317

            4. SCIENCE:
            http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0069805

            5. 2013: “Ban GMOs Now – Health & Environmental Hazards – Especially in the Light of the New Genetics” The most complete up-to-date summary of the dangers of GM agriculture in 52 pages:
            http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Ban_GMOs_Now.pdf

            6. The Case for a GM-Free Sustainable World – A Summary
            (Dozens of prominent scientists from seven countries …… joined forces to launch themselves as an Independent Science Panel on GM at a public conference, attended by UK environment minister Michael Meacher and 200 other participants, in London on 10 May 2003)
            http://www.i-sis.org.uk/ispr-summary.php

            7. Open Letter from World Scientists to All Governments Concerning Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)- in 2000:
            http://www.i-sis.org.uk/list.php

            8. This is a pretty good summary of many studies on GMO horizontal gene transfer:
            http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Recent+evidence+confirms+risks+of+horizontal+gene+transfer.-a096893512

            9. 2013 And what must the following say about GMO bacteria transferring to human DNA?
            http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/36108/title/Bacterial-DNA-in-Human-Genomes/

            10. More data showing risks of horizontal gene transfer/changes…
            “After mixing just a single meal of RNA into the natural diet of the worker bee larvae, as the bees grew older, scientists discovered that a staggering

            1461 GENES SHOWED SIGNIFICANT CHANGES…” !!!!! …WTF ?!

            http://responsibletechnology.org/Why%20Scientists%20are%20worried%20about%20the%20GMO%20potato%20and%20apple%204.8.15%20Final.pdf
            WATCH the VIDEO here:
            http://www.responsibletechnology.org/posts/why-scientists-are-worried-about-the-gmo-potato-and-apple/

            11. Scientist Richard Strohman, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Department of Molecular and Cell Biology:
            “The number of questions, the number of possibilities for what happens to a cell, to the whole organism when you insert a foreign gene, are almost incalculable.”
            http://www.saynotogmos.org/scientists_speak.htm

            12. GMO MYTH AND TRUTHS
            A most comprehensive science-based, heavily referenced review
            (Point by point )
            http://www.saynotogmos.org/ud2012/fp-content/docs/GMO_Myths_and_Truths.pdf
            Written by:
            Scientist Michael Antoniou, PhD -molecular genetics and head of Gene Expression and Therapy Group, King’s College London School of Medicine, London, UK.
            with over 40 peer reviewed publications of original work, and holds inventor status on a number of gene expression biotechnology patents…. John Fagan PhD and Claire Robinson MPhil

            13. Agrobacterium is used as a vehicle to insert GMO genes into plants. Agrobacterium has been found in Human DNA of those suffering Morgellons disease….

            “Vitaly Citovsky is a professor of molecular and cell biology at Stony Brook University in New York (SUNY). He is a world authority on the genetic modification of cells by Agrobacterium, a soil bacterium causing crown gall disease in plants, that has been widely used in creating genetically modified (GM) plants since the 1980s because of its ABILITY TO TRANSFER a piece of its genetic material, the T-DNA on its tumor-inducing (Ti) plasmid to the plant genome…”
            http://m.pnas.org/content/98/4/1871

            “…we demonstrated that this plant pathogen can in FACT GENETICALLY TRANSFORM HUMAN CELLS.”
            http://www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/biochem/research/faculty/citovsky.html
            http://www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/biochem/research/faculty/citovsky/

          • agscienceliterate

            A labeling law was signed a few months ago by Obama. And they are not required to disclose any specific types of pesticides used. None of the previous unsuccessful labeling laws rejected by voters in CA, OR, WA, and CO would have required disclosure of pesticide chemicals.
            And sulfur is used in organic farming.
            Genetic engineering is a process, not a “thing” in your food. Just like mutagenesis (look that up). If you want to avoid GE foods, there are tens of thousands of products clearly labeled organic and non-GMO certified. (And no, I do not get shill bucks for promoting the $60 billion Big Organic industry, but I appreciate your thinking of it.)

          • Mary

            UNTRUE.

            And I beg to ask, where do you surmise that from the insurmountable obvious evidence??

            Foods are being converted to GMOs all the time – most recently Salmon, and apples were approved for commerce. ALL seeds are also the target and Monsanto already pursued that in South America. There is a long list long being advanced by Monsanto.

            Just about EVERY tens of thousands of foods on supermarket shelves contain GMOs AND they are NOT REQUIRED TO BE LABELED nor are the ingredients required to be listed. There are THOUSANDS of ingredients derived from GMO corn and soy .

            SO NO – we cannot avoid GMOs. And those MISlabeled Organic CONTAIN GMOs BECAUSE of those ingredients not required to be revealed. ALL those markets like Whole Foods are LYING to us. Most all is garbage. What is the use of a product telling me that only one third of their product is non-GMO???

            Try looking for non-GMO organic zuchinni, or corn or squash in your grocery store. I can’t within a 60 mile radius. I have to order foods online and pay delivery costs BECAUSE of GMOs. All of humankind cannot afford to do that.

            The USDA also PATENTS GMOs – now where is THAT going to benefit organic farming’s future?????

            And how airheaded can ya’ll be… when the wind is one cause for the spread of pollen, so are bees and birds and insects and some animals.

            Tell me: WHAT choices will we have when ALL foods are converted to GMOs and the powers that be: agriculture, USDA, FDA, CDC, WHO, Codex Alimentarius, FTC, The UN … and the global powers arrange for that to happen legally with all their global Trade and other policies which are affiliated with and managed by our governments?? … and only benefitting Corporations??… and not approved by WE THE PEOPLE????

            But that is not all…

            Galore of MEDICATIONS are being produced with GMOs. So called Human Insulin has been since 1982… and causing havoc, I might add.

            That includes VACCINES. Insect GMO vaccines lol… Flu (Influenza) shot, HPV, and Pancreatic cancer shots – all others in production. Will we be living out “The Fly.”

            That also includes VITAMIN products. Most vitamin C and E…

            There IS NO choice!!

            THAT is NOT DEMOCRATIC. Particularly when you are talking about the food that sustains our health, created by nature’s algorithms of which we know not. Genetically modifying nature is irreversible – HOW can that be considered a choice???

            The reason crops are failing is because of mass industry. That goes against natural ecological growth.
            A return to local farming and old traditional methods will change that. The only reason it was changed was to monopolize the food industry – not to make it better, because obviously, it did not. AND agriculture destroys surplus crops after market vending, and so the fallacy of lack of food. So do restaurants and our BBQs.

            WAKE UP.

        • Mary

          Here’s what you’re asking for – if you’re not informed by these scientists, then I don’t know what will….

          First, not only foods are GMOs…. vaccines and MANY MANY MEDICATIONS are made GMO…
          These are only from INSECT cells: red blood cells for example for treating anemia, kidney disease, bone production after chemotherapy and radiation:
          http://genetics.thetech.org/about-genetics/making-medicines
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2679063/

          Insulin for diabetics was changed to human GMO E. coli bacteria insulin in 1982, and patients have been having many long standing reactions and illnesses for decades, and more recent with the Obamacare where its the drug of forced choice: https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/genetically-engineered-insulins-side-effects
          By the way, diabetes type2 is completely reversible with diet. FACT.

          Here is a small sample of scientific evidence provided by prominent scientists…

          HORIZONTAL GENE TRANSFER to HUMAN DNA STUDIES (or to other species) and scientists against it:

          1. Here is a list of 230 scientists and geneticists opposed to GMOs since its inception:
          http://www.ensser.org/fileadmin/user_upload/131030_signatories_as_of_131030_lv.pdf

          2. Evidence CONFIRMS reality of HORIZONTAL GENE TRANSFER to other SPECIES (that’s US!) in GMOs :
          http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GE-horizontalgenetransfer.php

          3. DNA from GMOs can pass directly INTO HUMANS, study confirms – See more at: http://livefreelivenatural.com/dna-gmos-can-pass-directly-humans-study-confirms/#sthash.89g8HWhq.dpuf

          http://livefreelivenatural.com/dna-gmos-can-pass-directly-humans-study-confirms/

          4. SCIENCE:
          http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0069805

          5. 2013: “Ban GMOs Now – Health & Environmental Hazards – Especially in the Light of the New Genetics” The most complete up-to-date summary of the dangers of GM agriculture in 52 pages:
          http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Ban_GMOs_Now.pdf

          6. The Case for a GM-Free Sustainable World – A Summary
          (Dozens of prominent scientists from seven countries …… joined forces to launch themselves as an Independent Science Panel on GM at a public conference, attended by UK environment minister Michael Meacher and 200 other participants, in London on 10 May 2003)
          http://www.i-sis.org.uk/ispr-summary.php

          7. Open Letter from World Scientists to All Governments Concerning Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)- in 2000:
          http://www.i-sis.org.uk/list.php

          8. This is a pretty good summary of many studies on GMO horizontal gene transfer:
          http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Recent+evidence+confirms+risks+of+horizontal+gene+transfer.-a096893512

          9. 2013 And what must the following say about GMO bacteria transferring to human DNA?
          http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/36108/title/Bacterial-DNA-in-Human-Genomes/

          10. More data showing risks of horizontal gene transfer/changes…
          “After mixing just a single meal of RNA into the natural diet of the worker bee larvae, as the bees grew older, scientists discovered that a staggering

          1461 GENES SHOWED SIGNIFICANT CHANGES…” !!!!! …WTF ?!

          http://responsibletechnology.org/Why%20Scientists%20are%20worried%20about%20the%20GMO%20potato%20and%20apple%204.8.15%20Final.pdf
          WATCH the VIDEO here:
          http://www.responsibletechnology.org/posts/why-scientists-are-worried-about-the-gmo-potato-and-apple/

          11. Scientist Richard Strohman, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Department of Molecular and Cell Biology:
          “The number of questions, the number of possibilities for what happens to a cell, to the whole organism when you insert a foreign gene, are almost incalculable.”
          http://www.saynotogmos.org/scientists_speak.htm

          12. GMO MYTH AND TRUTHS
          A most comprehensive science-based, heavily referenced review
          (Point by point )
          http://www.saynotogmos.org/ud2012/fp-content/docs/GMO_Myths_and_Truths.pdf
          Written by:
          Scientist Michael Antoniou, PhD -molecular genetics and head of Gene Expression and Therapy Group, King’s College London School of Medicine, London, UK.
          with over 40 peer reviewed publications of original work, and holds inventor status on a number of gene expression biotechnology patents…. John Fagan PhD and Claire Robinson MPhil

          13. Agrobacterium is used as a vehicle to insert GMO genes into plants. Agrobacterium has been found in Human DNA of those suffering Morgellons disease….

          “Vitaly Citovsky is a professor of molecular and cell biology at Stony Brook University in New York (SUNY). He is a world authority on the genetic modification of cells by Agrobacterium, a soil bacterium causing crown gall disease in plants, that has been widely used in creating genetically modified (GM) plants since the 1980s because of its ABILITY TO TRANSFER a piece of its genetic material, the T-DNA on its tumor-inducing (Ti) plasmid to the plant genome…”
          http://m.pnas.org/content/98/4/1871

          “…we demonstrated that this plant pathogen can in FACT GENETICALLY TRANSFORM HUMAN CELLS.”
          http://www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/biochem/research/faculty/citovsky.html
          http://www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/biochem/research/faculty/citovsky/

          GMO INSECT VACCINES :

          http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2013/01/fda-approves-first-flu-vaccine-grown-insect-cells

          RECOMBINANT (GMO) VACCINES USING INSECT CELLS as of 2012:

          Approved GMO VACCINES FOR HUMAN USE:
          Cervical cancer – CERVARIX
          Influenza – FLUBLOK
          Prostate cancer – PROVENGE

          GMO VACCINES FOR VETERINARY USE:
          PCV2 – Porcilis
          PCV2 – CircoFLEX
          Classical swine fever – Porcilis Pesti

          GMO VACCINES FOR HUMAN USE IN CLINICAL DEVELOPMENT as of 2012:
          Diabetes – GAD Diamyd in Phase III
          Hepatitis E – ORF 2 GSK in Phase II
          Influenza – NA Protein Sciences in Phase II
          Influenza – HA/NA/M1 Novavax in Phase II
          ParvovirusB-19 – Parvovirus VLP Meridian Life Sciences in Phase II
          Influenza H5 – HA Protein Sciences in Phase I
          Norwalk – Norwalk capsid VLP Ligocyte in Phase I

          IN THE WORKS:
          Hepatitis B Virus (HBV)
          Polio Virus serotypes (types 1, 2 or 3)
          Rotavirus VP6, VP7 and major outer capsid protein
          Measles virus (genus Morbillivirus, family Paramyxoviridae)
          Rubella virus (= togavirus of the genus Rubivirus)
          HPV Human papilloma virus (>100 subtypes)
          Japanese Encephalitis JapaneseEncephalitis (JE) virus (Flaviviridae)
          Yellow Fever virus (Flaviviridae)
          Tick-Borne Encephalitis Tick-borne encephalitis virus (Flaviviridae)
          Hepatitis (HAV)
          Rabies virus (RABV) (Rhabdoviridae)
          Mumps virus (Paramyxoviridae)
          Influenza virus (Orthomyxoviridae)

          Here’s their propaganda:
          http://www.who.int/immunization/research/meetings_workshops/Manon_Cox.pdf

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22265860

          • ColoradoBrit

            Hi Mary:

            Just a quick look at some of the topics / titles you sent………

            1. Do you really want to go back to the old days of insulin production? Where it was extracted from cadavers, i.e. dead people. Production of insulin from modified E.coli ensures a consistent and cleaner supply of the drug. Are you seriously suggesting that’s not progress?

            2. Horizontal transfer of genes? I don’t know how much microbiology you have studied, but gene transfer happens with great regularity…… genes for antibiotic resistance are a particular issue. The DNA molecule is a promiscuous little bugger!

            3. Horizontal gene transfer to humans. Viruses are unable to reproduce on their own — they need a host — and take over their DNA to manufacture more virus particles. Have you ever had the ‘flu or a cold? If so, you have suffered from horizontal gene transfer by the simplest of organisms on the planet…… nucleic acid in a protein shell. Happens a lot!

            4. Do you know that the structure of DNA is the same regardless of organism? If you were given a gene sequence, you could not tell whether it came from an amoeba, a penguin or an oak tree. The commonality of DNA is the biggest single argument in favor of evolution.

            5. Do you know that humans already share genes with several other species of animals?

            6. Do you know that just about all the food we eat has been genetically modified for centuries, except methods were called other names, e.g. plant / animal breeding, cross breeding, grafting, etc.?

          • Mary

            1. Insulin from the 20’s to 1978 was produced from the pancreas of animals. Not human cadavers. Ah…. and have you ever eaten meat? … those are cadavers. And why not just cure that with diet?? My mom’s diabetes of 15 years at the age of 65 was completely reversed in 2 months with diet and blood cleansing traditionally ancient herbs via a MEDICAL DOCTOR! Medical doctors who do not fear their hierarchies are doing it all the time. Get with the program… stop living in the dark ages of gag-orders of knowledge. You do know that medicine has natural scientific knowledge under gag-order since the 1800s, right? Unless it can be transformed into synthetics – that knowledge does not exist.

            2. Not so promiscuous then if our whole genome has not completely transformed as yet. That’s because nature is the master in that. Antibiotic resistance is your example?…. well… ha….and what do you suppose is to blame for that crisis? Yes. Human intervention. Human meddling. We humans were warned of that decades ago – or do you forget? …just like scientists have been warning about GMOs. Or did you not read my scientists’ links?

            3. Yes and that virus-transfer to our bodies is made by nature and its algorithms, which it knows well…IT initiated that transfer for its own reasons and pace. And all the more reason to be careful with MANMADE acceleration of gene transfer across SPECIES. We are not talking about viruses or bacteria. This is not a mere cold or flu. We’re talking about major characteristic DNA changes. While we do carry ancient viruses in our DNA, and DNA transfers happen between species of bacteria…. we are not talking here about nature triggered changes…. we are talking about foreign DNA transfers that would directly affect our DNA of MONTROUS manmade-gene-manipulations such as the PRODUCTION of INSECTICIDE (the GMO glyphosate or bacterial self-producing pesticide in BT)…. Or REPRODUCTIVE INFERTILITY….. or FLORESCENT GLOWING (GMO pink worm)… or E. BOLI (as some GMO agricultural plants and GMO mosquitoes)… or FLIES (such as in the Hepatitis vaccine)…. I don’t believe a reality production of “The Fly” will be so entertaining! This is not a Frankenstein fairy tale. It’s real Frankenstein shit.

            4. Are you so blind? ….. all DNA the same? Yeah… that is why we are sooo different. … That is why we have genetic research and GMOs because we are all the same and can’t tell the difference. Well why don’t you volunteer yourself for genetic research?? You should be feeling at home in those monkey cages then. Let’s see what you would look life with some fins, or octopus tentacles. Will your sex life be the same exuding pesticide?

            5. Share other species genes?…..Yeah… how you doing with them horns on your head? ….. how do you survive out of water? …. I bet you still carry that cave-man bat.
            6. Our food genetically modified for centuries?….. Do you know the difference between Hybridization and man-produced genetic manipulation – right??. What you are talking about is hybridization and THAT is between same species, NOT across species, and produced naturally –it is not splicing DNA and FORCING DNA changes. It is not splitting a plant DNA and inserting into it a mosquito or bacteria DNA. THIS produces UNKNOWN and UNPREDICTIBLE genetic changes down the line. Clearly you have not read not one of my scientists’ links.

          • ColoradoBrit

            Hi Mary:

            1. I think you have missed the point entirely. Are you really suggesting that getting a clean steady supply of insulin from engineered E.coli is not better than trying to isolate it from cadavers, whether human or animal?

            Secondly, you seem confused about the difference between Type I and Type II diabetes. Type I you’re not going to cure by diet alone. These are the people who need insulin. Glad to know your Mom kicked Type II.

            2. Transfer of genes that code for antibiotic resistance is just one well-known example of horizontal gene transfer. And most likely bacteria exhibited resistance long before humans showed up on the planet. It’s a defense mechanism against antibiotics, and part of their survival strategy.

            3. Your para 3 is totally incomprehensible, so I have nothing to add.

            4. You didn’t read my post very carefully. I said the STRUCTURE of DNA is the same for all organisms. Do an on-line search for Watson & Crick / Rosalind Franklin / Maurice Wilkin / Photo 51 / Chagraff’s Rule, etc. and you will find out about the structure of DNA — double helix – sugar phospate “backbone”, bases which only pair A-T G-C, etc., etc. But you know all of that, right? Surely, you must know what the structure of a gene is, in order to be so against genetic modification?

            Genetic experiment? You and I already are……. if you don’t like that idea, blame your parents!

            5. Sorry to disappoint, but we do share several genes with other species. Not my doing — it was evolution in action.

            6. Genetically-modified food for centuries? Different methodologies with different names, I agree. But still the aim is to change the genetic profile of the plant or animal in order to express other characterisitics, hopefully for the better.

            PS Not sure why you feel the need to be so personally insulting. I have answered you respectfully.

      • Joe Campbell

        And Farmer Sue got cancer one day and couldn’t figure out how the hell that happened. After tests were conducted by the concrete-dwelling educated doctors, high levels of glyphosate, mutated DNA, and malignant cells were found all throughout Farmer Sue’s body. Maybe if Farmer Sue’s mind wasn’t “closed tighter than a hog’s ass” she might have realized she was an uneducated simple farmer that only cared about gaining a higher yield and had no fucking idea what was going on at the cellular level.

    • Joe Campbell

      You are a simple minded fool for thinking anything sprayed with glyphosate is “the best thing”. You obviously know nothing of what this crap does to the human body and the environment. I think the “wingnut” here is you who thinks that putting a poison on your food is a good concept for the world. Ever heard of cancer? Is this a good concept for the world dumbass? You can keep your GMO ridden glyphosate drenched crappy sugar beets and I’ll stick to my ORGANICALLY home grown crops that the human body actually recognizes. We don’t need people like you ruining the food supply with your huge factory farms anymore. Local farms are making a comeback and producing quality over quantity again.

    • Jason

      Now THAT’s a problem I’d like to have.

    • gmoeater

      Ooooo, me too! You thought you had problems? I thought SNOW shoveling was a pain — try shoveling through a 3-foot drift of shill bux! I got my neighbors to help me, though. And paid them plenty to diss Chipotle, buy Roundup by the case, and snark on Fewd Derp’s Facebook page. That probably means just more piles and deep drifts of money, though. (Sigh)

      • What a pain. I can’t even keep up, what with the vax shill bucks from BIG pHARMa, the millions from BIG Ag, and who knows how much from BIG Chemtrail, and the rainbow $prinkler illuminati, I can’t even count it anymore. #shillproblems

        • ColoradoBrit

          I’m having to hire a whole team of CPA’s to make sure I pay the right amount of tax on all the shill money I earn!

          • It’s exhausting!

          • ColoradoBrit

            Tell me about it! And trying to remember which companies the checks came from……… you’re so right — it’s very tiring!

  • Megan

    WHY would anyone want to support a company like Monsanto that created
    1) PCBS that now contaminate every living thing and waterway.
    2) DDT which is toxic
    3) Dioxin which is toxic and according to the EPA also causes cancer and other health issues.
    4) Manufacturer of Agent Orange which contained high amounts of Dioxin. Agent orange WAS hailed as a miracle in the science community to stop malaria… but it killed, maimed, and deformed people. And is now banned.
    5) Roundup/Glyphosate which is toxic and listed as probably carcinogenic IARC.
    6) Finally Roundup Ready GMOS which are made to be sprayed with more glyphosate than regular crops.

    Of course a chemical company would produce a crop which can be sprayed with more pesticides!!

    – The world is not starving because they don’t have gmos. It’s because
    people are stuck in a cycle of poverty (poor, bad soil, uneducated) and
    The food waste culture of first world countries (most food doesn’t even
    make it to the supermarket).
    – Making a glyphosate resident crop is not the same as cross breeding because it could never happen in nature.
    – People against gmos are anti chemical not anti science
    – Why can organic farms use natural pesticides (still poison but rapidly degrades and won’t harm environment or people) and have nice produce. But normal farms for some reason think they can’t succeed without Gmos.

    Refusing to eat chemical companies gmos won’t stop the use of gmos for GOOD like medical/medicine use. But it will help the environment and you.

    • Farmer Sue

      Megan, I don’t know where you grew up, but obviously nowhere near a farm.
      1)Why do farmers support Monsanto? (And other seed companies). Because they sell high-tech seeds that allow us to use less resources and get a better yield, and to have less negative impact on our soils and water. I’m not going to respond to a number of your other exaggerated and off-point claims about agent orange etc.
      2) Roundup is not toxic, and that IARC report did not take into consideration dosage and use. Read the report before you show your ignorance.
      3) “sprayed with more glyphosate that regular crops” — ?? Farmers use less pesticides, and the ones used are much less toxic.
      4). If you think that “natural” pesticides rapidly degrade and won’t harm the environment or people, you are sadly misled.
      5). You are arrogant in your simplistic presumptions about why people are poor and hungry.
      6) “Cross breeding doesn’t happen in nature” — happens all the time. And in foods you eat that are made in a lab through mutagenesis, about which you have zero concerns.
      7) You can eat anything you want. You are sadly deluded if you think stopping the planting of GE crops will help the environment and people.

      Educate yourself. Talk to a farmer. Call your local farm bureau and ask them about agricultural biotechnology. Learn something. Then come back and post. Until then, you are just another amusing little hippie cement-dwelling activist who only reads activist literature and cannot think for herself.

      • Sala Malander

        fert is free man it’s all over the place it’s practical free, pest control it’s free for almost anything, the only that you have to pay it’s their shit, advanced bio cultures can grow more food than this shit practice, if you are care about education start with the soil micro organisms and the breath of the soil, this is happening all over the globe farmers are starting to dump their tractors and starting to grow real food, you can start see things at cellular level and not atomic, study about archea/bacto/mycho then you can figure out how to manipulate

    • First Officer

      1) Really? Citation that every living thing and waterway contains PCBS.

      2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#History

      3) Yes Dioxin is toxic. Agent Orange manufacturer’s never intended to make it. The manufacturing process has long been corrected.

      4) Agent orange is a defoliant/herbicide mixture, not an insecticide.

      5) Only IARC ists it as such, all other such organizations do not and some had reiterated the postion that glyphosate is not cancerous.

      6) Yes. That’s the point, to kill the weeds without tilling and harming the intended crop.

      – We do, at the moment make enough food to feed all, if ony we could get that food from where it grows to where it is needed. Food waste levels are roughly the same worldwide but for different reasons locally. We should not, however, wait for mass starvation due to lack of manufacturing to set in to then improve our yields. Make hay while the sun shines !

      – glyphosate resistance does occur in nature. So does Atrazine and other herbicide resistances. Corn had always been atrazine resistant.

      – Yes anti-gmo people are very anti-chemical even though anything with 2 or more atoms stuck together is a chemical. Without chemicals, you couldn’t even have that computer of yours to complain about chemicals. Many of the same people are anti-vaxx and scream about “chemtrails”.

      – poisons used by organic farms, such as copper sulfate and others, do not degrade rapidly and are often more toxic to both man and beest in quantities used. Question, if organic farming produces such nice produce, why is there a campaign to get people to accept ugly fruit?

      -Both medical and agricultural are GOOD uses for GMO’s and will and do help both us and the environment.

      • taerog

        Could not have said it better!

    • dfgsdgdgsdf

      Bacon is listed as just as carcinogenic as roundup
      Omg

      • agscienceliterate

        And coffee. And sunlight. OMG. March against sun!! March against coffee!!

  • Are there any strong opinions here on the recent Venezuela ban on research, production, import, and distribution of GMO seeds?

    • Ed Fimbres

      Venezuela has bigger problems than GMOs.

      • GMOs are only a problem for the scientifically illiterate, like you, ovumgirl.

  • Jay Hicks

    Maybe it doesn’t matter if the sugar is made from GMO beets or conventional beets. The thing that IS dangerous is the residual glyphosates and other pesticides that contaminate the sugar.

    • gmoeater

      Pesticides contaminating the sugar? Dangerous? Be specific. Those are pretty strong claims, that are not supported by science.

    • Good4U

      What do you mean by residual “glyphosates”? There is no residue of glyphosate in sugar from GMO beets. You are uninformed about the sugar industry, and have no point.

    • dfgsdgdgsdf

      Better get my organic e-coli from chipotle

    • taerog

      Full of bull, Not only does the Glyphosates degrade quickly and not bio accumulate in the wild (a great reason to use them), They are easily cleaned off, and in this case if any molecule is left destroyed in the possessing.
      So even IF Glyphosates where dangerous (which they are not in any reasonable dose) it still would not be a problem.
      and they best part is . . . it is EASILY testable!?!?!?!?
      Man I hate people poping off on something they does even have a rudimentary clue about and going “there I said something scary, everyone hear me I deserve to be heard”

  • Deb K

    Just a typo on an important sentence: “Those are bizarre claims because sucrose — sugar — whether derived from sugar cane or sugar beets, contains TO DNA.”

  • Jim Tomasko

    it can definitely be agreed that GM crops containing Bt eliminates the need to use any harmful insecticides on our crops. However, GM crops that are herbicide resistant significantly increase the use of herbicides due to herbicide resistant weeds and the need to use more frequent and stronger dosages of herbicide to deal with this problem.

    The only approved chemical ripener for sugarcane in the US is glyphosate (since 1973). A ripener is necessary because sugarcane is harvested in moist locations (like Fl, LA, formerly HI) where they need to stress the plants and concentrate the sugar in the canes to make it economically viable. So this transgenic sugarcane is sprayed with glyphosate during grow phase, then sprayed with GLY again at harvest time. One of the main concerns for people is the glyphosate residues on our GM sugars.

    And the research article that you mentioned was from 1997, and was connected by a biotech company (Institute of Industrial Genomics – there website says their ‘target audience is “Companies developing and marketing biotechnological and biopharmaceutical products, diagnostics.” And Dr. Kevin Folta is a highly biased source that has interacted and worked with biotech companies – not that I am debating the chemical structure of sucrose.

    • IJR

      Crop ratation, crop rotation, crop rotation

  • BookMarvin

    GMO title is a word that the dirt eaters use. It should be just called “round-up resistant”. These are all cross bred through pollination to find a better sugarbeet. It takes 10 years for this to happen from the first concept in the valleys of western Oregon. I was there when this first started, and believe this or not… I was the first person to apply Liberty Link on sugarbeets. Since then it has become Round-up resistant varieties.
    This is the same way we created better resistance to all diseases in sugarbeets, and depending for which region they are to grow in.
    In a nut shell there are plant breeders that know what they are doing, and know how to cross breed varieties to get the best results for sugar gains.
    If anyone wishes to use the Mexican sugar…. please go right ahead with that comsumption, as they are not regulated by USDA for what they use in raising sugarbeets. And do please test their sugar for any chemical residuals. Hmmm scarey thought huh.

  • Is there DNA in cooking oils? it would be nice if more articles stressed the point that we don’t really eat that many GMOs since most of the GMOs are used for cooking oil, corn starch, corn syrup, sugar, etc. etc. And no one is eating big bowls of straight cooking oil and sugar.

  • Hempy mchemperson

    So for people wishing to have pesticide free agriculture, non GMO is still the best choice. And certified organic is even better. Thank you for confirming that.

    • agscienceliterate

      You are totally hemp-addled if you really believe that non-GMO is pesticide free, or that organic is pestide-free. Sheesh. Just look it up.

    • IJR

      You are very ignorant. Most organic crops need massive amounts of herbicide, fungicide and pesticide. Organic farming is not sustainable, nor could it feed the world.

      Ask and organic farmer about how much more diesel they burn.

      I personally can not wait for the federal government to let me grow CRISPR hemp. That will increase my yields of GMO corn and soybeans and further reduce the amount of pesticides I use.

      Did you know that Monsanto is moving away from GMO technology in favor of CRISPR which is not GMO?
      Any questions?

      • Hempy mchemperson

        That is such complete bullshit obviously you don’t work in the industry at all. Every agriculture has to come with a certificate of analysis and a certificate of analysis is an independent lab testing for certain microbial counts pesticides herbicides fungicides heavy metals and radiation. If an organic certified company were to sell something as organic and then I have the next person down the line lab test it and find pesticides herbicides or fungicides they could be fined heavily not only by the person that they sold it to you but to be in breach of contract with the FDA who oversees the USDA and the USDA can find them tens of thousands of dollars as well As it costing the farm or wherever it’s grown upwards of eight to $10,000 to use the seal in the first place because the USDA does soil sample testing both for pesticides within the soil itself that may still be lingering as well as pesticides herbicides or fungicides that might be on the plant. You can come up with whatever freaky bullshit stories that you want to try to push your ignorant GMO agenda but if you’re actually interested in talking to somebody who works in this industry and works with organic agriculture and works with lab testing then you should probably just stop right there and listen to what I’m telling you because your head is currently up your ass.

        • IJR

          I do not work in the organic industry, because that is a scam. 44% of the foods sold in grocery stores as organc are not actually organic. Why should I beleive you over a peer reviewed, repeatable study?

          GMOs are great and I have the science to prove it, but you do jot care about science and reality, you,would rather toss around poorly crafted insults picked up on a middle school playground.

          GMOs are a thing of the past, monsanto is phasing them out in favor of CRISPR, which is even better than GMOs. I am sure you,hate CRISPR before you kniw anything about it.

  • Jack Hull

    What about trace glyphosate….a carcinogen

  • Joe Campbell

    If you are not an ORGANIC farmer than you are a part of the problem and not the solution. If you are spraying poisonous chemicals on the country’s food supply, you are committing a crime against humanity and helping to spread cancer that much faster. You should be locked up. Simple minded uneducated farmers know nothing in the scientific community about what is happening on the cellular level as usual. Anyone who works with chemicals so dangerous that require the wearing of special suits and then sprays those same chemicals on the country’s food supply is a special kind of stupid. But who are we kidding? Farmers require a 5th grade education at best so no surprise there.

    • IJR

      That is wildly ignorant and incredibly rude.

      We could have a debate about the sustainability of organic farming, the lower yeilds, the greater catbon footprint that organic farming makes, the huge amount of pesticides, herbicides and fungicides used in orgwnic farming…

      But I would rather focus on your idiotic vitriol for farmers.
      I would wager that even the dumbest farmer knows more about science than you ever will.

      Would you like to back up your dubious opinions with some sort of evidence?

  • Fayce Berke

    I have a question then… SO why, on the back of my Ocean Spray Cran Pineapple drink, purchased at Gelsons, on the ingredient list, specifically prefixed with an asterisk… literally states ” * Sugar produced with genetic engineering” What the fuck is anyone talking about anymore in regards to this? In my understanding who ever writes the article has someone’s interest in mind and usually that someone is paying. I understand that labeling laws are as such – but who made labeling laws have to reach such an obfuscated, critical mass? You think the FDA has the public’s best well being held close to its dear, old, lifeless gray heart?

  • Dont the GMO sugar beets become treated differently than normal beets in terms of the glycophosphates / herbicides that the new beets are resistant to being used in greater quantity?