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Call for action: It’s time to March Against the March Against Monsanto

For the last two years, protestors have marched under the banner of the March Against Monsanto (MAM) in coordinated demonstrations around the world in opposition to genetically engineered crops, the companies that make them or market them, and governments that approve their sale. Thousands of people have participated. While many protestors may have good intentions, hoping to improve the food system, the organizers of the March Against Monsanto and many prominent NGOs that promote this event often misrepresent biotechnology and farming.

It’s time to take back the science; it’s time to march against the March Against Monsanto. In this spirit, Karl Haro von Mogel, David Sutherland and Kavin Senapathy are planning a counter protest to take place on May 23, 2015—the same day as this year’s March Against Monsanto.

Karl is a research geneticist based in Madison, Wisconsin, active science communicator and public speaker. He spends much of his free time helping people understand the complicated science of GMOs.

David is a Chicago-based artist by profession, vegan & animal rights activist in his free time. As part of his early activism he contributed efforts to anti-GMO activism. With a discovered interest in science and critical thinking he had a change of heart and mind. Now he has a mission and passion to undo those wrongs by demystifying the issues surrounding GMOs and biotech.

Kavin is a freelance writer, science communicator, and mother of two young children based in Madison, Wisconsin. She promotes the idea that critical thinking is key in raising well-rounded children, and that embracing biotechnology is imperative in this objective.

While all three come from diverse walks of life, they have united in this movement to promote evidence-based information about our food system, and combat fear-mongering about the same.

The idea for the counter demonstration, originally conceived as a symbolic event in Chicago or Madison, has grown into a coordinated movement, with people around the world organizing events to coincide with and challenge the March Against Monsanto. Currently, the movement convenes on a public Facebook page, here.

Issues surrounding food incite passion. Food intersects everything from culture to science, politics, land use, nutrition, genetics and history. But because food is so important to human well-being, it is crucial that the claims made about it be carefully scrutinized. The MAM organizers don’t do that. The organization’s mission statement is a collection of false claims and conspiratorial leanings, and the group actively encourages extremist dialogue. Instead of saving people from poison, it is poisoning the debate about our food.

A few of the myriad fallacies MAM promotes:

  • “Research studies have shown that Monsanto’s genetically-modified foods can lead to serious health conditions such as the development of cancer tumors, infertility and birth defects.”
  • “Organic and small farmers suffer losses while Monsanto continues to forge its monopoly over the world’s food supply, including exclusive patenting rights over seeds and genetic makeup.”
  • “Monsanto’s GMO seeds are harmful to the environment; for example, scientists have indicated they have caused colony collapse among the world’s bee population.”

Sign "I want to know WTF I'm eating"We believe that these claims corrupt the debate and sidetrack the political will of concerned people who want meaningful changes to our food system. There are real problems with our food and distribution system. Inventing fictitious problems, or grossly exaggerating minor ones, or claiming that problems that affect all agriculture are unique to genetic engineering, has no place in a fair-minded public discussion. Obesity, malnutrition, lack of access to healthy food, poverty, environmental challenges and climate change are genuine concerns surrounding food. Misrepresenting science and scapegoating a single company, in this case Monsanto, as the root of all of these problems is not only wrong, but will make it harder for genuinely concerned citizens to address these real issues.

This is why we are taking to the streets ourselves, starting a new movement centered around educating the public about the facts about genetically engineered crops, real issues with food and agriculture and civil discussion. It’s time to oppose the fear-mongering and distortions promulgated by the March Against Monsanto. Global food security and the health of our food system are serious issues. Let’s rally to restore sanity, science and compassion.

Messages of MAM are confused, misleading, and wrong.

Most of the marchers are concerned citizens, with a belief that they are marching for justice, marching for public well-being, marching against the specter of Corporate Greed. With hearts in the right places and emotions running high, they take to their annual protest. Yet, rather than providing an accurate and coherent message, the March Against Monsanto is an annual spectacle of absurd claims, often represented by scare slogans and signs.

Protest sign "quit trying to get in my genes"

MAM uses images of children supposedly subject to imminent danger from consuming GM foods to play on the emotions of concerned, but scientifically ill-educated parents.This type of imagery is is representative of the irrational “genetic engineering will control you” rhetoric rampant at these marches. Meaningless slogans like “My DNA is not for sale,” and “Quit trying to get in my genes” are catchy and invoke Orwellian-like Big Brother fears of malicious corporate bigwigs using genetic engineering to control the masses. While utterly unrealistic in a scientific sense, the vague allegation that Big Biotech can indirectly control the public via its genes has become a rallying cry at MAM events.

little girl next to lab rat

The repeated comparison of consumers to lab rats and science experiments has firmly cemented the notion that Big Ag unleashes products without regard to whether they are safe.

MAM frequently invokes heroes of the American Civil Rights movement, when there is no attack on civil rights taking place. In recent Facebook posts, MAM has used images of national heroes like Martin Luther King, Jr., and Rosa Parks to push its agenda. Quoting these leaders, MAM attempts to compare its movement to iconic and ongoing efforts to grant equal rights to all humans. Nevertheless, MAM’s effort only serves as an insult. Co-opting social justice heroes is a deceitful tactic that is offensive to victims of true civil rights abuses.

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Rosa Parks

MAM leaders sow seeds of distrust about government and science. Not only do leaders paint the picture of Malevolent Monsanto, and Bad Big Ag, they also paint the government as conspiratorial cronies with an underhanded motivation to forgo public safety. It’s a reckless anarchism, drawing on tactics of the far right, that feeds cynicism.

Sign "FDA stop poisoning our families"

Those who use these tactics should be held accountable.

We are starting a movement to combat misinformation and fear-mongering, and promote science-based information on agricultural biotechnology:

The weight of evidence shows that the GMOs that people eat are safe. Just last week, in a survey of the scientist-members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the largest independent science organization in the world, 88 percent said GM foods are safe—a consensus higher than that for the belief that humans are mostly responsible for climate change.

We see the environmental and health advantages GM products provide, and we are excited about the promise these innovations hold—if the kind of hysteria and fear generated by groups like MAM don’t scuttle that. Technologies like recombinant DNA techniques, gene editing and RNAi have the potential to become an important tool in the challenge to feed the Earth’s growing population and combat malnutrition in increasingly sustainable ways. While biotechnology comes across as daunting to many people, we believe scientists and savvy citizens can come together to help demystify them and inform fellow concerned citizens about how “genetic enhancement” has helped shape agriculture as we know it for thousands of years.

Scientists and lay people alike have banded together on social media to spread awareness of the benefits of GMOs. Why not take this momentum a step further, to establish an organized movement?

Tomato injected with syringeFringe activists like the leaders of March Against Monsanto spread unscientific propaganda, promote distrust of scientific consensus, use junk rhetoric, and leverage fear. Conversely, we hope to leverage the public’s thirst for reason and knowledge to showcase the potential of GMOs to alleviate hunger and promote sustainability. While fringe anti-GMO activists play on consumer ignorance using scary, fallacious imagery like syringes in tomatoes, we’re convinced the majority of the public is intelligent, albeit misinformed, and eager for an objective view of food, farming and biotechnology.

Upon its founding in 2013, March Against Monsanto issued a mission statement addressing the questions: “Why do we march?” and “What are solutions we advocate?” Here, we present the first draft of our Mission Statement:

Why we will march:

  • The weight of scientific evidence shows that GMOs are safe and beneficial. With reasonable public policies in place, biotechnology has the potential to help feed and nourish the world.
  • We oppose the fallacies propagated by March Against Monsanto and other biotech activist opponents.
  • For too long, extremist advocacy groups have used the specter of “Monsanto” as a scapegoat to oppose GMOs and attack biotech supporters.
  • Ill-informed opponents of GMOs have manipulated the public discussion and the political process by flooding the internet and media with misinformation.
  • The growing chasm between the pro-science and anti-biotech camps does not promote solutions to global hunger and sustainability. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
  • Biotech fears have harmful, real-world consequences. GM technologies are not a homogenous product to be demonized, but a toolbox to be utilized to improve our current food system.

Solutions we advocate:

    • Call and write food companies and organizations that have kept GMO ingredients in their products to thank them for standing with science.
    • Call and write companies that may be debating whether to go GMO free to to encourage them to keep GM ingredients.
    • Food without fear! Aim for a diet high in fruits, vegetables and other wholesome components without worrying about GMOs (unless they add vitamins.)
    • Educate friends and family about the science and benefits of GMOs in a non confrontational way.
    • Encourage people to get involved, learn and be a part of the conversation about GMOs and food.
    • Support businesses, NGOs, and educational organizations that take an evidence-based stance on GMOs.
    • Offer your expertise. If you’re a scientist, farmer, teacher, or industry expert, donate your valuable time to speak at schools and conferences about the real role of biotechnology in agriculture.

“Why we march” and “Solutions we advocate” are evolving lists. As our movement grows, we will work together to refine our mission.

While our name–“March Against March Against Monsanto”–denotes our opposition to much of what MAM represents, we will communicate a positive and diplomatic message. MAMAM is our acronym, it has more than one meaning; we also fancy ourselves March Against Myths About Modification.

Further, MAMAM is not just a one-day event, but a movement. We hope it will resonate with media, soar in cyberspace and stimulate face-to-face conversations. We promote spreading awareness and sharing science-based information in a proactive, non-combative manner.

Call to action:

If you’d like to help, head to Facebook to join the movement. If you’re unable to organize or attend a local event this year, we’re also looking for artists and writers willing to help with publicity material, and potential sponsors willing to donate toward the costs of educational handouts and bottles of water for marchers. Remember, we’re still in the infancy of our movement. Please stay tuned to watch us grow and hone our messages!

Hopefully and sincerely,

Kavin Senapathy, Karl Haro von Mogel, and David Sutherland

181 thoughts on “Call for action: It’s time to March Against the March Against Monsanto”

  1. Whoever wrote this article is obviously paid by Monsanto – never have I heard such BS, I know for a fact that points 2 and 3 are 100% correct, they make farmers dependent on their seeds (by making them very cheap), then they kill the supply of the other seeds because everyone has stopped using them, then they increase the price for their seeds (by exorbitant amounts), and them some farmers are required to pay because of the extortion, some farmers stop working and some farmers commit suicide. These people are one of the nastiest corporations in the world.

    Oh, and there is so much more shit they do, look them up, this bit I described was nothing.

    I’m ashamed that this writer is working for a science related site, it gives all us scientists a bad name.

    • Anecdote is not evidence. I happen to know people who use the screen name “Erx” have no supporting documentation that hasn’t been demonstrated false repeatedly and yet continues to be recycled. Did that convince you to change your stance? No? So why do you think your unsupported allegations will convince anyone?

      • here is my defence, I have no anti or pro GMO stance, that is not my beef, nor am I an activist, just a person who gives a damn about other human beings and despises what is known as the most evil cooperation in the world, and that is Monsanto:

        “we’re in the dereg business” – Bush senior.

        ….

        1,280 indian farmers who have committed suicide from not being able to repay their loans after they were hooked on cheap Monsanto cotton seeds and then had the prices increased on them by 4 times after the original non-Monsanto seeds were no longer accessible.

        It disgusts me the lengths that people in this forum would go to in order to protect their livelihoods – your careers and your pocket are that important to you, eh? You’r eno different that the people who are behind the scams and frauds executed by Monsanto,

        Once again, I’m not here to talk for or against GMO’s, so I will not even bring up the deformed rats. I’m here to express my disgust against the tactics, which are so characteristic of Monsanto.

        You have a problem with any of this? take it up with the media, because TYT isn’t the only place I’ve gotten the news from.

        Once again, if you haven’t watched the video, don’t bother replying.

      • Linda, you’re so correct on that one. The march against gmos movement is absolutely supported by the $70 Billion organic industry. But these guys evidently think it’s ok to be a shill (and ignorant, at the same time, poor science-illiterate babies) for organic.

        I wonder if they’re ok with mutagenesis breeding on thousands of types of organic seed development. They never address that. I wonder if they’d agree that I have the “right” to know if my organic foods were produced with seeds that were blasted with chemicals, or with irradiation, to produce the seeds. (which is what mutagenesis is) Or the high rate of e.coli contamination in organic vegetables from improperly composted manure.

        • Hi ex-organic farmer. Do I know you by another name ? I would love to speak with you further. If you’re able, please contact me via private message at fb.com/ksenapathy

          • What chemicals is Monsanto blasting our foods with???? Round-Up is a highly effective herbicide in very small amounts and has a very short lifespan in the field. Bt crops actually make pesticides unnecessary because the plants contain a toxin making them unpalatable to insects. Why don’t you learn something about agriculture before repeating lame Greenpeace talking points?

          • GM is not needed nor wanted to grow our food. What MAM is stipulating is that these “foods” get labeled if they have been grown using ge technology. Usually one is proud to put one’s label on a product. Why the biotech industry, the grocery manufacturers association and other corporations are piling millions of dollars into fighting a little label speaks volumes. LABEL IT. Let the people decide if they want gm grown food or not.

          • No one is blasting anything. But go look at the compounds acceptable for organic…what you’ll find is that they’re old, sometimes ineffective and VERY toxic (i.e. copper). But hey, they’re natural so that makes them safe…..right??

      • You mean the extremely profitable organic industry that doesn’t encourage its members to lower their prices so more people have incentive to buy their products? That is so concerned about “nutritional integrity” it prices its food out of a range many people are willing to pay, leaving them no choice but to eat all that crappy, nutritionally-deficient “conventional” food? You mean THAT organic industry?

    • “I’m ashamed that this writer is working for a science related site, it gives all us scientists a bad name.”
      What kind of science do you do, exactly? If you really are a scientist, make citations for your claims…..or stick your condescension where the sun don’t shine.

          • Got nothing against GMO’s mate, just the corporate practices of Monsanto, they have blood on their hands, they are in the extortion business, they are also in the buying/controlling government officials to subvert the political will of the people business.

      • yeah, am, maybe you should follow the news, and that means NOT following the fox news of your world which makes you feel comfortable in your career, future areas of employment, gives you the safeguards that your emotions feel the need to indulge… and does not feed you the ideological nonsense that your emotional needs cannot go without.

        • Oh, were you insulted? I am disappointed that you resorted to an intellectually lazy approach by throwing a debate stifling accusation grenade into the mix here. I suspect you are capable of engaging in a rational and thoughtful conversation, but just making unsubstantiated assumptions about the motivations of the writer, I just see it as a crude form of attempted censorship. Just so you know, I absolutely despise the street theatre that March Against Monsanto deploys as its substitute for civil engagement, but I don’t buy into the premise of the article. Defeating or silencing MAM is not the goal, broader understanding and literacy of the public regarding the process, purpose and beneficial application of biotechnology is, and that includes an accurate appreciation for risks and tradeoffs from embracing the technology as well as rejecting it. Empowering ourselves with information and understanding so that we can judge the quality and accuracy of MAM’s message for ourselves is the endgame. I do not plan to join or endorse any effort that stoops to MAM’s level.

          I can’t remember the last time I watched anything on Fox News, its been years. Actually, why do you assume that someone who took exception to you utilizing what I perceived to be a lazy substitute for constructive comment would be a regular viewer of Fox news. I am not sure that those of libertarian bent who chose Fox as a preferred source of news wouldn’t be just as suspicious of corporations, FDA, USDA, and all the others that regulate biotech.

          You can diagnose my personality flaws all you want, not really relevant and I don’t value your skills as an amateur psychiatrist. I am also quite familiar with the video you pasted, seen it in full at least 3 times, lots of spin, innuendo, and conspiratorial fantasy — it doesn’t come as some shocking revelation. I find it manipulative, shoddy journalism and I reserve the right to think for myself and judge the quality of evidence this video presents.

    • Not 100% correct, not even close. I am a farmer and I choose to do business with Monsanto or not to. My choice, my decision. Their seeds are no more expensive than other seed companies and other HYBRID seed options. The idea that farmers would commit suicide because a seed company was charging to much is laughable at best and extremely sad that people would believe it. Maybe it is time you questioned your beliefs and talked to a real farmer? Instead if reading made up info. on M.A.M’s page? This writer represents millions of people who agree. March Against Monsanto is one of the saddest cases of misinformation that has ever existed.

      • Thank you, Angela, for the farming that you do, and the fact that you do it with information, science, best practices, intelligence. Those of us who eat food appreciate what you do!

    • Erx, Think things through before you post lies. We can always check prices you know. Also when accusing someone of working for Monsanto it is best to include evidence. Also even if working for Monsanto crap is true. I’m still betting my pizza that the article is true and you are the dishonest one.

    • Actually Erx you should be ashamed of yourself for writing such demonstrably ignorant nonsense. The fact that your ignorance makes you scared of the world is all the more reason why you should actually make some effort to understand it, rather than latch on to whatever agrees with your prejudices. Check your sources for a start – repeating a lie doesn’t make it any less of a lie. Confirmation bias such as yours, and all the anti-GMO lobby, only serves to prevent you ever leaving your prison of ignorance and fear.
      If you understood the first thing about genetic modification, or even about the food you currently eat (and have been eating since you were born), then you wouldn’t write such spurious drivel.

      A bit of science education and critical thinking will go some way towards releasing you from the pit of ignorance in which you currently reside.

      This is a bit long, but you should make the effort to read it, and try to understand it:
      http://issues.org/30-2/keith/
      And this:
      http://www.humanosphere.org/environment/2014/03/gmo-cotton-killing-indian-farmers-saving/

    • The SAS, Shill Accusation Syndrome, is strong in this one. GM seeds are actually more expensive than non-GM seeds. But farmers have consistently opted to buy them because of their benefits to them.

      • Absolutely, First Officer. Farmers are very wise stewards of their lands, and the many farmers that I know choose GE, conventional, and organic seeds very carefully, and with lots of information. The farmers I know alternate between GE and non-GE crops, and some of them also integrate organic crops into their annual rotation with no problems.

          • “…at markets” ?? What are you referring to? GE sugarbeet farmers, and GE field corn growers, don’t sell their crops at markets. Are you misled that veggies and fruits are GE?
            The arguments against labeling are many, and don’t have anything to do with trying to cover up what’s in food. Labeling is a red herring. (let me just ask; do you think organic food should be labeled for having been produced through mutagenesis? Why not?)

          • Why is a label needed for a process? What products that you might buy at a farmer’s market can be GMOs? Please give us a list of them,

        • One of the most bizarre activist tactics is claiming that farmers are “poisoning their land” or “killing their soil”.

          Anyone with the least amount of ag business knowledge knows that the value of a farm’s land is by far its biggest asset. No farmer is going to jeopardize the underlying value of the land.

          But I guess no one can accuse activists of being smart, or honest for that matter.

    • Don’t let them bring you down Erx. Look around. This entire website is devoted to promoting GMOs. Anyone that disagrees will sure throw fire. I’m suprised anyone is even reading this crap.

        • here is my defence, I have no anti or pro GMO stance, that is not my beef, nor am I an activist, just a person who gives a damn about other human beings and despises what is known as the most evil cooperation in the world, and that is Monsanto:

          “we’re in the dereg business” – Bush senior…

          1,280 indian farmers who have committed suicide from not being able to repay their loans after they were hooked on cheap Monsanto cotton seeds and then had the prices increased on them by 4 times after the original non-Monsanto seeds were no longer accessible.

          It disgusts me the lengths that people in this forum would go to in order to protect their livelihoods – your careers and your pocket are that important to you, eh? You’r eno different that the people who are behind the scams and frauds executed by Monsanto,

          Once again, I’m not here to talk for or against GMO’s, so I will not even bring up the deformed rats. I’m here to express my disgust against the tactics, which are so characteristic of Monsanto.

          You have a problem with any of this? take it up with the media, because TYT isn’t the only place I’ve gotten the news from.

          Once again, if you haven’t watched the video, don’t bother replying.

      • No, “Amy.” It’s devoted to promoting a viewpoint different from yours. That’s something neither you, nor the sanctimonious anti-transgenic stormtroopers like you, can tolerate.

      • Amy dear, look at the context of the posts. Be analytical. Remember your “critical thinking” skills you learned in school … or were you asleep?

        The posters here who support gmos aren’t “promoting” them. They are supporting science. I know; a strange concept — supporting scientific evidence and not being a shill for Monsanto; can your cute little brain absorb that apparent dichotomy?

    • My real concern is that people will start to think “ah monsanto aren’t so bad then” look at they have behaved in india ! that is not made up, it is not exaggerated it is fact. There are many awful things to be said against monsanto that can be proved because of the legal cases made against them, and they ARE a face of corporate greed – they a more or less owned by a banking family. Im not completly against GMO, but companies like monsanto should have no part in its development.

      • How has Monsanto “behaved” in India? That Indian farmers are committing suicide because of Monsanto is a complete lie. Indian farmers often are only one drought away from losing their farms because of heavy indebtedness to CONVENTIONAL seed, fertilizer, herbicide and pesticide distributors. There were alarming numbers of farmer suicides throughout India’s history. It’s that $40,000-a-speech Vandana Shiva who started the vicious lie that Monsanto is at fault.

          • Rex, You are correct and also out of date. The folks who made the horrible decisions during the 60s are in mid 80s or older now. Long gone from Monsanto. Monsanto sold the division that produced the problems and because of a series of sales and acquisition actually ceased to exist as a separate entity for a while. Current employees often were not even born back in the bad old days. Do I think liability laws should be updated to prevent these problems? Yes Do many Americans buy from German and Japanese companies that powered the Axis war efforts during [email protected]? Yes. There comes a time when we must update our views.

          • « Do many Americans buy from
            German and Japanese companies that powered the Axis war efforts
            during WW2? »

            You can add: « Do many Americans
            buy from American companies that powered the Axis war efforts during
            WW2? »

            There indeed comes a time when we must
            update our views.

          • Wackes, I remember reading something about Ford many moons ago. Was that true and are there others?

    • GMO seeds are very cheap? Possibly you’d like me to send you a copy of our seed catalog & pricing? I think you’ll find that they are SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than our conventional seeds.
      Your claims are total nonsense.

    • OOO, Erx! Tell me where our farmers can get gmo seeds “very cheap!” They pay more for them now. They would love to know the source of your “very cheap” gmo seeds! And they’d like to plow your butt underground for alleging that they have to pay because of some “extortion” (conspiracy, conspiracy, paranoia). Erx, have you EVER talked to a gmo farmer? Naah, I didn’t think so.

          • Up in the sky ! It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a yogic flyer !!

            No, wait, it’s a plane. People just can’t fly !

          • Duh, of course they can’t – Monsanto puts extra gravity in their poisons to keep their victims on the ground.

            Just shed all those toxins and practice your sutras and you too can soar high.

          • Only Jeffrey Smith, author of the fantasy fiction thriller sci-fi “Genetic Roulette,” flies as a yogi! We’ve all seen that “photo” of him levitating, while everyone else in the room is bored asleep or looking the other way. Baaaaad photoshopping job.
            But hey, he flies, (maybe) so therefore … he knows all about gmos!

        • Are you even speaking english? You said you see chemtrail banners “on” the marches? What exactly does this mean? Also are you aware that individual people are responsible for making and believing the signs they hold, noone else. Must have been all the protests and rallies you have been to confusing your judgement.

          • MAM has promoted the chemtrail crap on their pages. They do not discourage it or tell folks to stop fearing clouds.

          • I do speak English. It’s not my first language. So sometimes, I screw up prepositions. But why would you use progressive tense to ask this sort of question? Ouch.

            Are you going to ignore the rest of my post? Very telling.

            So, tell me, why do you identify with crackpots?

      • Look outside their spraying !!! OMG!!

        NOT.

        MAM does not promote chem-trails, in fact we are quite against geo-engeneering. Anyone who promotes geo-engeneering is an uneducated and probably a global warming alarmist. Or hiding for their real identity like “Real Name”.

        • I think I see the problem. When he said “MAM promotes chemtrail conspiracies” you took that to mean he was saying MAM supports the spraying of chemtrails.

          No, he was saying MAM promotes the idea that chemtrails are real and that they are part of a conspiracy.

          And it’s spelled “they’re”.

          • Yes some individuals do believe this. As you know, they are in the minority, if you consider MAM as a group. The lesson learned here should be that lumping people into “groups” often results in what we have here. A bunch of self righteous douchebags talking about nothing. Have fun folks. Eat the pesticide, the EPA says it’s safe….just like DDT.

          • I don’t know whether belief in “chemtrails” is endemic among anti-Monsanto activists, but I wouldn’t be surprised, because it would be consistent with their conspiratorial reasoning on GMOs.

          • JohnH, in case you haven’t noticed I am the MAM Philly organizer. We have no conspiratorial reasoning only the facts. Your point of view is incorrect. I base my observations on the facts.

          • I know.

            All conspiracy theorists base their conspiracies on “facts”. They have 100s of thousands of “facts”, usually, on their blogs and in their books printed by their little presses.

            Holocaust denialists, global warming denialists, HIV/AIDS denialists, JFK conspiracy theorists, moon landing denialists, and so on.

            They all have “facts”.

            By the way, no it will not come as a surprise if you also endorse some of those other conspiracy theo–er, “facts”, either. It has been shown there is high correlation…once you believe in one, you are very likely to believe in another.

          • Where is your data on this correlation? I would be interested to actually see your opinion proven somewhere.

          • I know. I think you meant, “Look outside. They’re spraying.”

            I don’t think you were attributing “spraying” as a noun as possessed by “them”.

        • Oh, so you replied to your own comment. I see.

          I think things are clear now. Just to make sure — you believe that:
          Chemtrails and geo-engineering are real?
          Monsanto is evil and tries to do evil things?
          Global Warming is a hoax or similar?

          Your language is very vague at times. Try being more concise.

    • I support the availability and judicious use of biotech mediated processes to expand the choices available to farmers and society to meet resource stewardship and nutritional challenges we face. I oppose dogmatic rejection of a beneficial technology out of fear, ignorance and intimidation. I just respectfully disagree with your use of the term GMO foods. There are no GMO Foods — that is a spin and distortion. There are foods derived from crops instilled with traits through biotech mediated methods that assist in no-till husbandry, that protect against disease that confounded all our other genetic tools, and that enhance some nutritional aspects. Genetic engineering is a process, not an end product.

    • I agree, and currently the facebook group name is March Against Myths About Modification. We will be discussing names and goals in the coming weeks, and if the community can decide and agree on a better one that captures the right spirit then we’ll change the name. Stand for Science is one we have been considering!

  2. I have no problem with GMO’s, so long as you are willing to label them so people can CHOOSE. WTF are you afraid of? If they are benign, why NOT label????????

  3. This article is hilarious, very obvious they are paid by Monsato. If you can’t see what the GMO food has already been doing to our health then you’re clearly not awake. They genetically modify our food to cut costs and save money. This article is very difficult for me to read because I am constantly keeping myself informed on these topics. I absolutely will March Against Monsato this March. In retrospect it’s good these ppl are marching against our march. It means they are losing their money, power, and control.

    • If you really are about being informed, shouldn’t you be seeking out alternative opinions? Sounds to me like you’re more interested in reading things that reinforce your existing opinions. That’s different than staying informed.

      • I love the backlash!! Am I not trying to educate myself and seek alternative opinions by reading this article and visiting this website? After my mother was diagoned with breast cancer I began to research medicines and foods among other things. I have no problem with science, yet I believe in the natural growth of our foods! Please, everyone, tell me what it is that you are standing up for.

        • “I believe in the natural growth of our foods!”

          “Please, everyone, tell me what it is that you are standing up for.” Helping folks like you discover the difference between science and belief.

        • Facts Amy Just the facts. Just like on Dragnet. If it is unsafe I don’t want my nieces and nephews eating it. I even care about my annoying brother in law because for some reason my sister loves him. Same goes for my neighbors and folks I do not know. Why would I ever want to see a technology succeed that would cause my family to have, say increased cancer risk?

        • We encourage our friends and family to make purchasing decisions based on evidence and the weight of scientific consensus. Further, we oppose baseless fear mongering and exploitation of emotion typical of MAM. I’m sorry about your mother’s cancer diagnosis, but I hope you don’t think it was brought on by food.

        • “Am I not trying to educate myself and seek alternative opinions…?”

          Nope. You’re not. You’re here to bait and mock people who think differently than you do.

    • Amy – I’m one of the authors of this piece. Which part, in particular, do you find “hilarious?” And who is “they?” And why are you convinced that I’m paid by Monsanto? I know a few Monsanto employees, all of whom are quite open about the identity of their employer.

    • Call a company and thank them for poisoning us with GMOs?! Ludicrous! I got a good laugh from it too, Amy! But seriously, I’ll be right there next to you at this May’s MARCH AGAINST MONSATAN! Their tobacco science is BOUGHT SCIENCE that springs from salaried employees, huge university grants, and regulatory capture. Scratch the surface of their so-called unbiased science and you’ll always find a connection to the biotech industry. Independent science says BAN GMOs AND ROUNDUP!
      http://www.gmofreeusa.org/research/gmo-science-research/

    • In 2013, when all the MaM stuff started showing up on my wall, I decided that I needed to learn more about GMOs and Monsanto. I did not just visit the anti GMO pages or even just Monsanto. I went and looked at the studies, they I went and looked at what credible sites, like Academic Review said. I found GLP and the Biofortified and others. I looked at the consensus of scientists and experts in the field. I talked to farmers and I went and checked out blogs by them.

      Any after all that research, I found out that GMOs are as safe as any other food source, and that they reduce pesticide use, and that they allow farmers to use methods that are more environmentally friendly. In other words, I saw through the lies of MaM.

      My background is geology/physics, my hubby is a geophysical engineer. I nave no connection to Monsanto or any agri business, except as a consumer

      • Thank you for your input! I will continue to investigate my food choices and gmo products. I would like to believe we are taking care of our people. I wish good health and longevity for everyone :)

        • Amy, That response just earned you respect that your earlier ones did not. I grew up during a time when many companies were engaging in reprehensible conduct. I had a strong anti chemical company bias. Fortunately emotion was not involved and I had some classes years ago that helped me overcome my own objections. I am a small farmer and landscaper in Florida and my learning of the facts of these matters is somewhat similar to Cairenn’s. Started about 5 years ago. As for my mentioning of Anastasia above her last name is Bodnar and writes articles on these subjects. Complete with references to back up her contentions. I recommend you google her.

      • Thanks Cairenn, Your post elicited a better response than the one I was about to make demanding Amy post facts. Have you been attending the Anastasia school of nice?

    • conspiritards like you are not “awake” or “informed”, you are merely steeped in an all-encompassing belief system made of pure woo-woo that you use to shield yourself from facts you do not like.

      • You’re joking right? You talk about non-gmo supporters being ignorant but I think this one takes the cake. So you think that conventionally grown crops are safer because they use poison to supposedly sterilize them? Right… Because eating gmo products doused in herbicides, pesticides, and produce bacteria inside their leaves (bt) are so much better for you.

        • You do realize that organic farms use herbicides and pesticides right?

          Farmers don’t use more of them than they need to, because they’re expensive. GM crops that allow the use of specialized chemicals do so because in the long run they use less, which is both cheaper and less toxic.

          And Bt is not a bacteria. It wouldn’t matter if it was though – your stomach is filled with safe and important bacteria.

        • I think the point being made is that they both use pesticides, but due to the production systems, organic foods are more likely to carry safety issues. Certainly, the data shows that organic foods are far more likely to have safety recalls than are conventional foods.

        • Nothing is doused….exactly how much is a douse, anyway? The point is that many organic crops are fertilized with (theoretically) composted manure. If that is done improperly, the crop can be contaminated with a dangerous strain of E. coli O157, that causes severe kidney damage and HAS resulted in death. There is no centralized mechanism in the US to enforce the standards. Cries out for the precautionary principle, no?
          Oh, and the Bt toxin is produced in the plant, not the entire bacterium.

        • Do you really think that pesticides ‘sterilize’ a crop? That is totally silly and has no basis in facts. Pesticides kill insects not bacteria/viruses. Organic crops fertilized with manure (shit) can be contaminated with bacteria/viruses from them.

          Do farmer, douses their crop with any herbicide or pesticide—it is Too freaking expensive!

          I have question for you, Do you eat corn leaves or roots or stems? That is where the BT is. Second question are you a caterpillar? Do you have an alkaline digestive system? If you don’t BT can’t bother you. We can eat chocolate, our dogs can’t.

  4. You left out the most harmful myth of all: that GMOs contaminate organic crops.

    I’m always amazed when GMO proponents actually believe that a GMO crop can contaminate an organic crop. I hope you will take a few minutes to hone up on America’s standards for organic production before going any further. It’s vital to get this straight.

  5. So clearly there are different opinions on this topic. If you look at history there are numerous examples of ‘science’ saying something isn’t harmful when it was later found to be quite the opposite. So I’d say the pro GMO people need to settle down a bit. Also, if GMO isn’t so bad why are GMO manufactures spending oodles of money against GMO labeling and let the consumer decide if they wish to buy their product?

    • Possibly because of the scare tactics used against them. The moment they stick a label on something it will become a target for every anti-science and science illiterate out there.

    • Certainly there are examples of evidence proving to be incorrect. There are many, many more examples of it being correct. So shouldn’t we be trusting it a bit more than we do?
      As for the reasons a company might want a to oppose a law forcing all of their customers to label a certain way, how does that say anything at all about the safety of the product? Why does that matter in the least?

    • Regarding the “science makes mistakes” trope:

      Science deniers have their view of science all wrong. They think that it’s some mysterious group-thing, where a bunch of stuffy academics cut off in their ivory towers arbitrarily propose and idea and then “prove” it. But this view is utterly wrong.

      (Incidentally I’m using the term science denier deliberatly, as the same argument gets used by anti-vaccinationists, anti-evolutionists, alt. med advocates etc)

      Science is a logical method to answer questions about the
      natural universe. It is a way to describe and to understand everything around us, whether it’s our health, or the sun and the moon, or the nature of matter itself. It’s a process that attempts to remove those biases and logical falacies humans are wont to make, to provide an answer to the question that can stand up to criticism and examination.

      And science is self-correcting. If an idea is disproved by evidence, it is discarded without ceremony. Yes, science once said that smoking, DDT and thalidomide were okay – but then it also and overwhelmingly demonstrated that they weren’t, because the evidence showed it to be so. If you tried to claim now that smoking was okay, you’d be jumped on by a hundred scientists with the data to demonstrate you’re wrong.

      But here’s the thing. With smoking, DDT and thalidomide, the evidence conclusively showed harm. With GMOs, the evidence overwhelmingly and conclusively demonstrates that they are as safe as conventional crops. 30 years and literally thousands of studies say the same thing. When science repeatedly, independently and constantly gives the same answer over and over and over again, there comes a point when you have to accept that what it is showing is correct.

    • It is. Live with it. It is pushing for the rule of the masses over government and science.

      You have made quite a few comments, but I have not seen you tell us why you oppose GMOs. Do you even know? Have your really LOOKED at the studies about them? Or are you just repeating what others have told you? Or do you dislike Monsanto, because it is large company and you have been told to HATE them? And you are just repeating that story also.

  6. As a farmer who has used gmo seeds and Monsanto roundup on my land….I have had a hard time understanding this anti GMO mantra! I understand people fearing things they don’t understand,but gee the world is round …..not flat! Can’t we agree on that part? Fearing the truth is so dam odd to me!

  7. Whilst I can see that there is a lots of bad science out there, and people misunderstanding what genetic engineering is and the effects it can have, health and genetic control are not the only issue with Monsanto. They are a truely morally bankrup organisation – they are predatory, ´donating´ seeds to farmers in disater areas which are high yeald but totally inappropriate and ruin their land, meaning that all that they can grow are other crops owned by Monsanto. They sue small farmers when their crops spread onto their land, they ´donate´. They promote agressive pesiciding.

    I´m not an organic addict or anti GM. It is just that the organisations who currently control GM seeds at this time are the epitomisation of preditory capitalism. I am also merely a sceptic. Human interventions in ecosystems are often diasterous. Caution I think should be taken.

    I have no doubt that drought resistant crops, high yeald crops, yellow rice etc. have an increadible potential to help mankind, but those who believe in the power of science to create a better world should not be marching for Monsanto. Do a “Scientists who actually know what is going on march against monsanto, and we´re not with those guys, becasue they are nutters”. The idea of Monsanto being able to point towards an important group of highly rational people and say “they´re on our side” is truely horrible.

    • Sam, please cite even one example in the scientific literature or a major reputable publication of the following statements you make:

      –donating´ seeds to farmers in disater areas which are high yeald but totally inappropriate and ruin their land

      –sue small farmers when their crops spread onto their land, they ´donate´.

      –They promote agressive pesiciding.

      None of those claims are factually accurate. (And pesiciding is not a word, btw.)

      • LMAO – my got, you people accuse others of being shills because you are projecting, because you all know what shills you are and are projecting that on to others due to guilt/because you’re doing the same thing/other reasons. please stop.

        the people on this blog are a really well organized propaganda outlet, very well done, comparable only to fox news.

  8. You stated “88 percent said GM foods are safe—a consensus higher than that for the belief that humans are mostly responsible for climate change”. But I’ve read somewhere that the consensun on climate change is around 97%…

  9. here is my defence, I have no anti or pro GMO stance, that is not my beef, nor am I an activist, just a person who gives a damn about other human beings and despises what is known as the most evil cooperation in the world, and that is Monsanto:

    “we’re in the dereg business” – Bush senior.

    1,280 indian farmers who have committed suicide from not being able to repay their loans after they were hooked on cheap Monsanto cotton seeds and then had the prices increased on them by 4 times after the original non-Monsanto seeds were no longer accessible.

    It disgusts me the lengths that people in this forum would go to in order to protect their livelihoods – your careers and your pocket are that important to you, eh? You’r eno different that the people who are behind the scams and frauds executed by Monsanto,

    Once again, I’m not here to talk for or against GMO’s, so I will not even bring up the deformed rats. I’m here to express my disgust against the tactics, which are so characteristic of Monsanto.

    You have a problem with any of this? take it up with the media, because TYT isn’t the only place I’ve gotten the news from.

    Once again, if you haven’t watched the video, don’t bother replying.

  10. Priceless!

    You claim that,”I’m not here to talk for or against GMO’s”, yet you trot out about every anti-GM meme out there: Seralini’s lumpy rats, Shiva’s made-up farmer suicides, etc.

    Sorry, I don’t need to watch your stupid video, either. Within 22 seconds the bimbette talker started out with the “Monsanto is trying to take over the food supply meme”.

    • Errr… i’m not pro or anti GMO’s, I don’t control what’s in the video or news, I never made an issue about the rats study because that’s not my point of contention, HENCE I DID NOT MENTION OR TALK ABOUT IT AND ACTIVELY TOLD YOU THAT I AM NOT HERE TO ENDORSE IT – but here for other reasons – get it?

      I’m only here to let you know what an evil cooperation you are supporting, the most evil corporation in the world, actually, comparable only to the military industrial complex and war profiteers that has arisen for making profits by spilling foreigners blood – which Eisenhower warned us about in the 50’s (but we ignored)… when profits run amuck, this is what happens, I guess you guys are hoping to get employed by Monsanto one day, hence the overtly cringe-worthy smut peddling you’re all involved in…? Falling over one another to be the first and finest at kissing Monsanto’s ass?

      You’re children/parents must be so proud!

      • Pointing out the idiocy of your statements and the idiocy of the video you spammed does not constitute an endorsement of Monsanto on my part.

        You’ve made a lot of claims about Monsanto with absolutely nothing factual to back them up.

        “You’re (sic) children/parents must be so proud!”
        I’m pretty sure your English teacher isn’t!

  11. ….And you accuse US of being pseudoscience. That rat study you’re not showing us was done by a guy getting funding from French retailers pushing non-GM product lines. The same guy who made sure the photos were released to sympathetic journalists PRIOR to publication.
    Your assessment of the Indian suicides is garbage. The large increase took place leveled off before the release of GM cotton.

    • Errr… i’m not pro or anti GMO’s, I don’t control what’s in the video or news, I never made an issue about the rats study because that’s not my point of contention, HENCE I DID NOT MENTION OR TALK ABOUT IT AND ACTIVELY TOLD YOU THAT I AM NOT HERE TO ENDORSE IT – but here for other reasons – get it?

      I’m only here to let you know what an evil cooperation you are supporting, the most evil corporation in the world, actually, comparable only to the military industrial complex and war profiteers that has arisen for making profits by spilling foreigners blood – which Eisenhower warned us about in the 50’s (but we ignored)… when profits run amuck, this is what happens, I guess you guys are hoping to get employed by Monsanto one day, hence the overtly cringe-worthy smut peddling you’re all involved in…? Falling over one another to be the first and finest at kissing Monsanto’s ass?

      You’re children/parents must be so proud!

  12. repay their loans after they were hooked on cheap Monsanto cotton seeds and then had the prices increased on them by 4 times after the original non-Monsanto seeds were no longer accessible.

    The vast majority of farmers in India WILLINGLY buy GMO seeds every year, from one of the 26 different seed companies in India. That is over 7 million farmers (95%+ of cotton farmers), you are basically accusing over 7 million farmers of being stupid. Hardly credible.

    • No I’m not, once they loose the seeds, they have no choice – their will is taken away, people don’t commit suicide for no reason, think twice before supporting evil. if you want Monsanto to employ you one day, have a good look in the mirror and decide if this is the company you really want to work for.

      • once they loose the seeds, they have no choice – their will is taken away

        Nothing is taken away, and they dont loose any seed. If the farmers wanted to grow Non GMO they would, easy to do, just buy non GMO seed.
        Why would I want to work for Monsanto, i have the best boss now, Me.

  13. The only “organized” thing about “us people” is our thinking and integrity-based dedication to facts demonstrated by properly performed science, qualities you and your activist cronies fail to demonstrate, Mr. Shill for Big Organic.

    • Errr… i’m not pro or anti GMO’s, I don’t control what’s in the video or news, I never made an issue about the rats study because that’s not my point of contention, HENCE I DID NOT MENTION OR TALK ABOUT IT AND ACTIVELY TOLD YOU THAT I AM NOT HERE TO ENDORSE IT – but here for other reasons – get it?

      I’m only here to let you know what an evil cooperation you are supporting, the most evil corporation in the world, actually, comparable only to the military industrial complex and war profiteers that has arisen for making profits by spilling foreigners blood – which Eisenhower warned us about in the 50’s (but we ignored)… when profits run amuck, this is what happens, I guess you guys are hoping to get employed by Monsanto one day, hence the overtly cringe-worthy smut peddling you’re all involved in…? Falling over one another to be the first and finest at kissing Monsanto’s ass?

      You’re children/parents must be so proud!

  14. Soooo this article says dont listen to them its not important? Wheres kavin’s scientific evidence? Probably in her pocket like everyone else against TRUTHFUL genetic literacy. Keep an open mind. I foubd thus site researching and it has only reaffirmed my belief that GMO’s are bad.

  15. For the information of those demanding the labelling of GM containing foodstuffs:

    The Council for Agricultural Science and Technology (CAST) conducted an evidence-based review of the impacts of labelling Genetically Engineered Food in the US, examining the arguments for and against labels, the costs involved with labeling, and experiences in countries that use mandatory labeling.

    The conclusions of the review were:

    1. There is no science-based reason to single out GE foods and feeds for mandatory process-based labeling.
    2. Mandatory labeling based on process abandons the traditional U.S. practice of providing for consumer food preferences through voluntary product differentiation and labeling.
    3. Market-driven voluntary labeling measures are currently providing consumers with non-GE choices.
    4. Mandatory labeling could have negative implications for First Amendment rights and trade issues5. Mandatory labeling will increase food costs.

    (You can read the report at: http://www.cast-science.org/news/?to_label_or_not_to_label&show=news&newsID=18441)

    Of these reasons, nos 1, 4 and 5 bear repeating – there’s no good scientific reason for labeling GM foods, it would be unconstitutional and it would drive up food prices (this might not be an issue if you’re a nice middle-class well-off individual, but there are too many people who struggle to put food on the table as is, without the paranoid rich making things more expensive through their ideological whims).

  16. Why do we need apples that don’t decompose properly? I do not stand with science that’s out of control. You are not the great Spirit. oh wait, science doesn’t believe in Spirit. Oh wait, science has proven the so called, GOD particle. Scientists are very hypocritical. Science does not need the creators of “Agent Orange” making our food.

  17. These MAM signs are indeed “misleading” – but they are just meant to get the general (unaware) public to think and question something they did not know was a problem. You also cannot generalize that all people taking a stand at MAM are hippie, liberals that are obsessed with conspiracy theories and are anti-government. This march takes place all around the world, since Monsanto has become a monopoly in hundreds of cities since 1901. I am ALL about promoting science, for that is exactly what I do (as well as nutrition research). However, I am against the fact that the FDA and Monsanto are corrupt. Instead of politicians, the FDA and Monsanto need to be run by actual scientists, geneticists, registered dietitians, and other professions that are dedicated to the wellbeing of the population’s health. The MAM is not glorifying organic foods only, but rather, begging for proper labeling of our foods. It is not about GM – it is the fact that one of the largest CHEMICAL companies in the world controls our food. It is not about science, it is about money. And that is what we are marching for – to be heard; with every “dramatic” sign as we can get.

  18. I have been extensively reading your blogs that keep promising to educate, and yet, all I read is a repeating of all the rhetoric. Please start explaining the truth about GMO, if you say that MAM is only perpetuating fears and lies.

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